
Music Not Diving with Scuba
Paul Rose, also known as the musician, DJ, and label boss Scuba, interviews significant figures from the world of electronic music. Guests share their experiences, observations, and attempts to build a life within the often challenging music industry. The conversations explore the murky waters of the business from an insider's perspective.
Episodes

#52: Did the promise of AI-human hybrids drive the deals for Distrokid and Kobalt?
On this episode...Why Distrokid selling to CVC will lead to more AI music.What Kobalt selling to Primary Wave means for the majors.Why the industry is counting on the hybrid musicians of the future.Were the Odyssey casting decisions part of the marketing campaign?And what Suki Waterhouse could learn from Boy George...!Read my 2000 word essay on the Burial / dubstep conundrum: https://www.patr

#51: Is the John Summit vs Pete Tong beef real?
Even if it's not just a very effective bit of marketing, John Summit should definitely turn heel. On this episode we also discuss other notable examples of music industry creative stunts including Chuck D vs Flava Flav, Fifty Cent vs Kanye, Green Day vs The Network, and The KLF vs a million pounds. --NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoo

#50: Dance Music Deserves To Be Destroyed By AI
No, really it does. In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles. And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events. I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait! --NEW MERCH STORE: Supp

#49: Thoughts on Trillionaires
What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...--NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop

#48: I was WRONG about music and corporate money
NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss!Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert. --Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubao

#47 Carl Craig: from Motown to Techno via The Electrifying Mojo
NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit. A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now. Listen to the reissue of 'Medi

Bonus - Singles Club: 2 minute reviews of the UK Top 10
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Singles Club is a series of podcasts we do over on our Patreon. Sign up for less than the price of a cup of coffee to get all 20+ episodes!--Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud

#46 The truth about Ticketmaster, and why Chaotic Good's unscrupulous marketing campaigns are actually good for music
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation.We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible fut

#45 AI sceptics and the boomers who want to save independent music
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of busine

#44 Watches and musical wonders: the Rolex-ification of music
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast...The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here

#43 Techno in India Part II: FILM on the challenges of making music in India
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Cen

#42 Techno in India Part I: Kohra on building a scene from the ground up
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Cen

#41 Frank Wiedemann: Âme Live and the new wave of Berlin clubbing
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/Frank Wiedemann is

#40 Slipmatt: the rave revolution, hardcore vs jungle, and making an all-time classic
MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop--You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/Slipmatt is one of the most important DJs in the history of dance music. From his first major gig at Raindance in 1989, he

#39 Recondite: the art and culture of dance music, and can AI produce groundbreaking music?
Recondite is one of our favourite guests and here we welcome him for his third appearance on the podcast.We discuss his recent performances at arguably the world's hottest music venue - the Sphere in Las Vegas, and also the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. And we get the inside story on what's going on in melodic techno, an area of dance music that has attracted some of the biggest audiences while being

#38 Are musicians cheating with AI? And is the DJ/Producer model broken?
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingFollowing on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the

#037 Sister Bliss: Faithless after Maxi, raving in the 90s, and the power of a global hit
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingSister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Fa

#036 Johnno Burgess: Bugged Out founder on how to run a rave brand for 30 years
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingBugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginn

#035 Jagz Kooner: Weatherall, Sabres Of Paradise, and quitting while you're ahead
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThe Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our

The unfolding AI debate: the End Of Recorded Music?
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThis is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was

#034 Twenty-Twenty-Five and all that
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingA review of some of the stuff that happened in the Year of Our Lord, 2025.Percy Digs instagram

#033 Kazim: artist manager on how to get ears on your music in the streaming era
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, st

#032 Sam Binga: the art of A&R, UK bass culture, and the importance of community
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, st

#031 Carrier: the crisis in music and how to stay true to your creative vision
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#030 François X: Concrete, French touch, and the development of techno in Paris
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, st

#029 Mixtress: seminal clubs, beefing artists, and why DJing isn't for everyone
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from ma

#028 Sofia Ilyas: breaking Nils Frahm, working for Beatport, and escaping loneliness
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from ma

#027 Dot Major (NIGHT manoeuvres / London Grammar) on getting signed, his crazy Printworks set, and HYPH MNGO
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from ma

#026 Joris Voorn: how ADE changed the Dutch scene, and the threat of AI to musicians
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event.This episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from mak

#025 Perc: the scariest clubs, hyper professionalism, and how Napster killed techno labels
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingPerc is one of modern techno's reference points: an internationally touring DJ and live act, fo

#024 The enshittifiction of music: should you boycott Spotify... or maybe something else?
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingA boycott is the end of a conversation, not the start. On Music Not Diving this week, we d

#023 DJ Bone returns: the art of Techno from Detroit to Amsterdam
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingDJ Bone is a legend of Detroit techno, and previous guest on the original version of this show,

#022 Paul Ćinske: How to program the world's most important techno club
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingPaul Ćinske is the man behind every single booking at the most important club in the history of

#021 Darren Hemmings: Music marketing expert on how to get your music heard in 2025
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingReturning guest Darren Hemmings is a music marketing expert and the founder of a creative marke

#020 Jamz Supernova on BBC radio, the Mercury Prize, and the genius of Dizzee Rascal
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingJamz Supernova is one of the UK’s most respected DJs and broadcasters. Best known for her shows

#019 El Hornet on influencing Skrillex, Glasto with Beyoncé, and the new Pendulum album
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingPendulum are the biggest Drum n Bass act of all time. A controversial statement perhaps but one

#018 Kelly Lee Owens on haunted hotels, tiny venues, and the value of music
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWe are finally back with a brand new episode!Kelly Lee Owens is one of the most notable UK elec

Classic Episode: Skream on flaming tour buses, stage invasions, and being marketed as a hellraiser
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingSkream was the poster boy for the early dubstep scene, then made the charts as part of Magnetic Man, and since then forged

Classic Episode: thoughts on Bandcamp and the D2C model
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! The

#017 Slam on Techno, Daft Punk, and why Glasgow is the best place to DJ
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingStuart McMillan is half of Slam, one of the most important UK techno acts in history and a

Schedule PSA and the world's worst Spotify take
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingNo full episode this week but an update on our scheduling woes and what we have coming up for t

Classic Episode: Luke Slater on techno, acid house, and Berlin
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWe've covered techno quite a lot over the years, but this episode is definitely one of our favourites.Originally broadcast

#016 Psychotherapist on mental health, creativity, and whether geniuses are all mad: Denise Devenish
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingDenise Devenish is a psychother

Classic Episode Remastered: Steve Davis on fame, snooker, and modular synths
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThis is easily in my top 3 favo

#015 James Holden on playing live, coding swing, and what he really thinks of nightclubs
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingJames Holden is a highly respec

Classic Episode: Tijana T on music journalism and the politics of dancing
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWe've been talking a lot in rec

#014 Groove Armada - Andy Cato on juggling music, regenerative farming, and working with Jeremy Clarkson
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingAndy Cato is half of Groov

#013 Joe Goddard on getting political, musical longevity, and the beauty of jamming
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingHow important is it for musicia

#012 WME Booking Agent on clubs, festivals, Ticketmaster, and Kneecap (Steve Hogan)
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingIs the club scene dead? Have fe

#011 Baltra on Lo-Fi House, making an album, and working on Wall St during the GFC
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWhat does the short-lived Lo-FI

#010 Emma Marshall on repetitive beats, wellness, and the science behind banning phones from clubs
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!And for artists and labels... use the code Scuba6 for six months free use of the platform!!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWhat's the link between repetit

#009 Richard Fearless on Death In Vegas, Daniel Avery, and getting dropped by a major
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingDeath In Vegas broke through in the late 90s with a run of albums beginning with 'Dead Elvis', a classic of the era t

#008 Tim Reaper on Jungle, internet forums, and the Future of Retro
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingEveryone loves a bit of nostalgia, but can you be too retro? And what do you need to do to take a classic piece of art and

#007 Dustin Zahn on the phone: Counterculture comeback, a golden age of standup, and the ghost of Hard Techno
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingTrain Wrecks is a podcast hosted by this week's guest that has been going since 2016. Even taking into account a few break

#006 Elijah on Yellow Squares, peak authenticity, and the unfortunate ubiquity of Joe Budden
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingElijah is one of the deepest thinkers in underground culture. Having first come to prominence in the second wave of G

#005 Lawrence Hart: Burial’s sampling, music theory, and Soviet-era synths
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWhat happens when you sign on to a label roster that contains The Arctic Monkeys, Jon Hopkins, and Hot Chip... and the dru

#004 Jane Fitz: Raving in 90s Hong Kong and the mystery of the underground
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingIs Jane Fitz a DJ's DJ? Even though we hate the term, it probably applies here... A DJ of more than 25 year

#003 Spencer Parker on the phone: Berlin, changes, and HorsegiirL
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingWe had our first bit of negative feedback last week... 'too much deconstruction of the club scene' they said! Or something

#002 James Ruskin: Tresor, Blueprint, and the enduring appeal of vinyl
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThe DJ / Producer / Label boss paradigm is a classic career path in dance music, not least in the case of the presenter of

#001 Tom Middleton: Sleep, audio therapy, and Aphex Twin
Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Welcome to the first episode of Music Not Diving! Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingIt's very far from perfect but it is out on time and no-one ever does pe

#157 DJ Bone (redux): a re-run of one of our favourite episodes
The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--We will be back next week with some important changes to the show... but in the meantime we bring you another chance to catch one of our favourite ever episodes. From all the way back on epis

#156 Wrestling, Rap Beefs, and Cultural Nihilism: the changing skillset of the modern musician
The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--What connects professional wrestling, the 2025 Superbowl halftime show, finance alternative media, and a ubiquitous major label tech house stooge?On this episode we find out.The podcast episo

#155 Riva Starr: House music and songwriting, "as a producer it's important to be challenged"
The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--What happens when an established house producer wants to write songs? What happens when they want to do things which might not appeal to their existing audience? That is what this week's gues

#154 Aly Gillani: Bandcamp - the insider take, "what's best for the artist always comes first for us"
The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--We are getting deep in the independent music industry weeds on this week's episode...To get started we must redirect you to episodes 91 and 92 of the podcast, which were a pair of deep solo d

#153 Ben Sims: what is Hardgroove anyway? "I wasn't expecting it to be a term that other people use to describe their music"
The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--What is Hardgroove anyway? It's a genre of techno isn't it? A general sort of vibe? Maybe even a music trend that has saved techno as a whole from the encroachment of the execrable nonsense t

#152 Mr G: 70k records and the need to be tested, "You only learn your chops when someone SHOWS YOU what greatness is"
How does a record collection reach an accumulation of 70,000 pieces of vinyl? I guess it must through a single-minded commitment to searching and buying over a long period of time?That is the story of Mr G, a life-long digger who broke through as part of one of the biggest techno acts of the 90s - The Advent - before going solo and gradually carving a niche as one of the best propon

#151 Dance Press Fantasy Football: editing a music mag can't be that hard can it?
On the show today I lay out my plans for a hypothetical stint as editor of one of the big dance music media platforms. I spend enough time shitposting these guys, so given the opportunity what would I actually do?Spoiler alert - it would be pretty sick.Lester Bangs profile.Barret Brown columns.Clive Martin in Vice.If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Pat

#150 Steve Hillage: Founding the Glastonbury Dance Tent and the link between progressive rock and techno "Dance music at Glastonbury just had to happen"
Steve Hillage is a founding member of System 7, one of the key proto-trance acts of the early 90s, and Mirror System whose latest album 'Route 77' is out now.Prior to his involvement in dance music he had an extensive career as a guitarist in bands such as Gong, Decadence (with Kevin Ayers), Khan, and Uriel, formed with the members still at school. His solo career includes records produced by

#149 MJ Cole (redux): a re-run of one of our favourite episodes
Into 2025! We will be back next Tuesday with a brand new episode, but in the meantime here is a re-run of one of our absolute favourites - discussing the merits of music theory knowledge and the legacy of UK Garage... it's MJ Cole! If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show wit

#148 Fred P (redux): a re-run of one of our favourite episodes
I recorded a solo holiday special episode for this week... but we have decided that it's far too depressing to come out this week, so instead we are returning to one of our favourite ever episodes. Originally from all the way back on episode 50, we bring you an extended interview with a very interesting guy, a great producer and DJ from the US - it's Fred P. We talk about his roots in New York Cit

#147 Darren Hemmings: marketing CEO on the state of music, "the gap between Big Tech and art has never been wider""
The 2024 Not A Diving Podcast Pledge Drive is now live!Sign up to the Musicality Tier on Patreon by Monday 23 Dec and receive a Not A Diving Club t-shirt!Thank you for your support, it makes this podcast possible.---The last year of the show has been more squarely focused on musicians than the first two. We've talked about general issues in the industry, but the expertise has mostly been from the

#146 DjRUM: Turntablism and taking positives from bad music, "There's a philosophical angle with everything for me"
The 2024 Not A Diving Podcast Pledge Drive is now live!Sign up to the Musicality Tier on Patreon by Monday 23 Dec and receive a Not A Diving Club t-shirt!Thank you for your support, it makes this podcast possible.---What happens when your DJ set bears very little resemblance to your much-loved output as a producer? And what happens when your production output doesn't seem to entirely tally with yo

#145 Kevin Saunderson: Detroit from day one, "It worked because we were young"
The 2024 Not A Diving Podcast Pledge Drive is now live!Sign up to the Musicality Tier on Patreon by Monday 23 Dec and receive a Not A Diving Club t-shirt!Thank you for your support, it makes this podcast possible.---We've had a few legends of dance music on the show, but this week we welcome our first member of the Belleville Three.Along with Juan Atkins and Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson 

#144 Sarah Story: inside Future Dance on BBC Radio 1, "they trust my taste and my vision"
Back with a guest! After last week's solo pod we welcome an extremely important figure in dance music broadcasting, BBC Radio 1's Sarah Story.Last week we talked about alternative media - of course BBC Radio is as legacy as it gets, but particularly in dance music there really isn't anything to rival Radio 1. It's notionally British public radio but the global influence is huge and the degree to w

#143 The End Is Nigh: Counterculture, insurrection, Gladiator, and the politics of catastrophe
I am back from holiday, and of course during my break events occurred. Back in 2016, Trump's win was a nasty shock. But ultimately as it panned out, the worst of it was confined to a generally queasy sense of chaos, the Trump family's probably-illegal self-enrichment, and the trashing of the public finances in the pursuit of all time highs on the S&P500. That was until the attempted insurrecti

#142 SP:MC: DnB from AWOL via Autonomic to now, "it got pretty smashy for a while...!"
SP:MC is an MC (ofc), DJ, and producer from the UK, mostly inhabiting the DnB space but who also regularly ventures into other areas of bass music and beyond.We discuss the DnB scene in the US (where he was on tour when we recorded this conversation) as well as in the UK, his formative years MCing with DJ Friction, his journey as a producer, and also a few of the topical scene issues we've been di

#141 Man Power II: Small venues and big artists, "there's been no thought whatsoever about sustainability"
We have discussed this thread on a few recent episodes of the podcast, so it seemed appropriate to have the man himself back on the show to discuss it.Man Power has been making waves in the UK scene since our last conversation on episode 52, with his parties at the Are You Affiliated venue and willingness to speak his mind on various topics affecting the grassroots club scene. Obviously this makes

#140 LIVE from fabric + thoughts on trolling
Our first ever Not A Diving Club event at fabric in London last week was a success. We played a ton of unreleased bangers and had a panel discussion on topical issues with Machine Woman, T.Williams, and Braille.On this week's episode we bring you a recording of the discussion, plus some of my thoughts on a topic close to my heard... relating to this little nugget which developed over the past

#139 Not A Diving Club Preview + Tim Hoeben live from ADE
*****ANNOUNCEMENT*****Join us for the first ever Not A Diving Club at fabric in London on Thursday 24 Oct, an evening of chat and unreleased bangers from 8pm til late.DJs on the night will beMinder b2b Machine WomanOneman b2b Lu.ReT.Williams b2b TashaScuba b2b BrailleThis will be a FREE ENTRY EVENT but you must be on the advance signup list to get in -> sign up here.---On the show this week we

Studio Stories - Decka on "Exit"
*****ANNOUNCEMENT*****Join us for the first ever Not A Diving Club at fabric in London on Thursday 24 Oct, an evening of chat and unreleased bangers from 8pm til late.DJs on the night will beMinder b2b Machine WomanOneman b2b Lu.ReT.Williams b2b TashaScuba b2b BrailleThis will be a FREE ENTRY EVENT but you must be on the advance signup list to get in -> sign up here.---The second in our series
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