A Culture of Curiosity: Inclusive Education That Really Includes!
Hosts Jack Pattinson and Maureen Brettell explore what it really means for children to feel they belong at school, arguing that being physically present is not the same as being included. Each episode mixes discussion, practical ideas and conversations with industry-leading guests about building a culture of curiosity in every school. The focus is on inclusion, connection and kindness, and on the part everyone can play in making school a positive experience for all learners. There are also plenty of laughs along the way, and listeners can get in touch at curiouspodchat@gmail.com.
Episodes
We Reflect & Move - Season Finale!
🎧 In this special season finale, Jack and Mo take a breath and look back on everything Season 1 has offered — the guests who’ve inspired us, the conversations that lingered long after recording, and the unexpected ways the podcast has taken root in people’s lives.👟 From thought tickles to meal deals and Matrix confessions, it’s a warm, human episode full of laughter, learning and honest reflection
We're Still Here! - Episode 6 (with guest Janelle Brindle)
What do spy disguises, UNO cards and critical thinking have to do with supporting care-experienced young people?In this thoughtful conversation with values-driven leader Janelle Brindle, we explore the messy, human realities behind the systems that shape young people’s lives. From supported accommodation to school exams, we reflect on the disjointed transitions at 16 and 18—and what happens when s
We Need Nurture! - Episode 5 (with guests Dr Suus Harskamp & Arti Sharma)
In this heartfelt conversation, Jack and Maureen are joined by Arti Sharma, CEO of Nurture UK, and Dr. Suus-anna Harskamp, an educator and inclusion specialist, to explore why a nurture-led approach in education isn’t a ‘nice to have’—it’s essential.Together, they reflect on what it really means to embed nurture as a whole-school ethos. From the six principles that underpin Nurture UK's approa
We Carry Shame - Episode 4 (with guest Meg Hughes)
What if the shame a child carries isn’t about what they’ve done, but about who they think they are?In this deeply moving episode, Jack and Maureen are joined by psychotherapist and former teacher Meg Hughes for an honest conversation about shame in school systems, the weight it places on children, and what it really takes to create environments where young people feel seen, heard and accepted.Meg
We Can Belong - Episode 3 (with guest Paul Bray)
This week we’re joined by the brilliant Paul Bray, behaviour consultant, safeguarding trainer, and author of Providing Relationships and Sex Education for Special Learners. Paul shares his personal journey from school exclusion to school leadership, and what ignited his passion for inclusion.Together, we explore:• the difference between inclusion and belonging• what it means to feel seen in school
We Build For All - Episode 2 (with guest Dan Tresman)
In this episode of A Culture of Curiosity, we dive into the heart of inclusive practice with Dan Tresman, founder and CEO of Light Years Education. Together, we explore where inclusion really lives in a school, not in the policies or paperwork, but in the daily, intentional decisions that shape how children feel, learn and belong.Dan shares the story behind founding a school rooted in relational p
We Are Connected - Episode 1 (Part 2)
In this episode of A Culture of Curiosity, hosts Jack Pattinson, a belonging and inclusion specialist, and Maureen Brettell, a leadership coach and SEN expert, dive into the heart of inclusive education, connection, and the importance of curiosity. Through candid conversations about their personal journeys, shared experiences, and the power of authentic relationships, they explore how schools can
We Are Connected - Episode 1 (Part 1)
In this episode of A Culture of Curiosity, hosts Jack Pattinson, a belonging and inclusion specialist, and Maureen Brettell, a leadership coach and SEN expert, dive into the heart of inclusive education, connection, and the importance of curiosity. Through candid conversations about their personal journeys, shared experiences, and the power of authentic relationships, they explore how schools can
Welcome to 'A Culture of Curiosity'
We're so excited to finally be able to share our podcast with you. We'll be chatting to practitioners from a huge array of specialisms and expertise, all sharing their thoughts, work and practice on all things belonging and inclusion. We hope this podcast will offer you some food for though, validation of great practice and areas you might want to develop. These are honest conversations, w
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