
Michael Jackson's Dream Lives On An Academic Conversation
Michael Jackson's Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation is a scholarly podcast hosted by Karin Merx and Elizabeth Amisu. It examines the art, music, and cultural impact of Michael Jackson through an academic lens. Episodes explore themes such as his creative process, legacy, and representation in popular culture. The podcast aims to offer dynamic, inclusive, and exploratory discussions for listeners interested in Michael Jackson studies.
Episodes

Episode 97 – The Dangerous Philosophies Part 5
Abstract: In part 5 of The Dangerous Philosophies, Elizabeth and Karin discuss Chapter 5, Identity and Identification in Michael Jackson's Dangerous. They also discuss how assumptions led to the multiple identities placed on Michael Jackson and how learning to observe can solve that problem. Karin created a foundational course and recently launched it; it is also for the many who draw Michael Jack

Episode 96 – Birthday Special, Invincible
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin celebrate Michael Jackson's Birthday through his last album, Invincible. They conclude that it shouldn't be dismissed but should be listened to carefully.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 96 – Birthday Special, Invincible, the Album Worth Listening to ” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation,

Episode 95 – The Dangerous Philosophies Part 4
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss Chapter 4 of The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife, The Narrative in Michael Jackson's Bad
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 95 – The Dangerous Philosophies Part 4” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 14 no. 1 (2026). Publi

Episode 94 The Dangerous Philosophies Part 3
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss chapter 3 of The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife, 'On Michael Jackson’s Dancing the Dream.'
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 94 – The Dangerous Philosophies Part 3” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 14 no. 1 (2026). Pu

Episode 93 The Dangerous Philosophies Part 2
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin continue with the series about The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife. This time, they discuss Chapter 2: A Critical Survey of Michael Jackson Studies
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 93 – The Dangerous Philosophies Part 2” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives O

Episode 92 – KingVention Special
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth discuss their experiences at Kingvention, a Michael Jackson fan convention. Karin explained her decision to skip this year's convention due to ethical concerns about AI-generated content using Michael Jackson's art and voice, comparing it to desecrating works by Shakespeare or Rembrandt. Elizabeth shared her experience, where she sold copies of her bo

Episode 91 – The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson Part 1
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin start with a series about The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife. They go through it chapter by chapter. They start with the preamble, forewords, the Selected Chronology and Chapter 1: Introduction: Reading, Writing, and Rewriting.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode

Episode 90 – An Academic Perspective on the Michael Biopic
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the biopic Michael in relation to cinematography, narratives, acting, performance and more.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 90 – An Academic Perspective on the Michael Biopic” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 13 no. 3 (2026). Published electronically 24/04/26. https://michaelj

Episode 89 – How to Write an Academic Book Review
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss how to write an academic book review in a rigorous manner. They discuss this based on the recent academic book review Karin wrote of Michael Jackson's Radical Aesthetic by Willa Stillwater.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 89 – How to Write an Academic Book Review” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Ac

Episode 88 – Past-Present-Future Book 8
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth go back to last year, discuss the present and give some insight into the future. We discuss the essays, podcast episodes and the columns published in the past year.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 88 – Past, Present, Future Book 8” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 13 no. 2 (2026). Pub

Episode 87 – The Michael Trailer
In the episode, Karin and Elizabeth discuss the teaser trailer for the Michael Jackson biopic, Michael, and compare it to the Aretha Franklin biopic Respect and Whitney Houston: I Wanna Dance with Somebody. They explore the history and evolution of movie trailers as an art form, noting their shift from simple advertisements to sophisticated promotional pieces. The discussion includes an academic a

Episode 86 – Echoes Without Presence
In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the recently published essay Karin wrote, Echoes Without Presence: AI, Michael Jackson, and the Crisis of Cultural Authenticity. They discuss specific topics as mimesis, misremembering and disremembering and imagination. Feel free to connect and ask us questions.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 86 – Echoes Without Presence

Episode 85 – Sentenced to Neverland
In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the essay, Sentenced to Neverland: Michael Jackson, Peter Pan, and Queer Futurity by Amy C. Billone. This essay is published in Michael Jackson: Grasping the Spectacle, edited by Christopher R. Smit.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 85 – Sentenced to Neverland Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversat

Episode 84 – Part 2 Margo Jefferson
In part 2 of our discussion about Margo Jefferson, we discuss articles from the Guardian and her essay in the catalogue of the On the Wall exhibition.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 83 – part 1 – On Michael Jackson” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 12 no. 4 (2025). Published electronically 21/08/25. https://michaeljacksonstudies.o

Episode 83-part 1- On Michael Jackson
In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin review the books written by Margo Jefferson, On Michael Jackson, editions 2007 and 2018. This is part 1 of the discussion; the next one is about articles in The Guardian and the catalogue of the On the Wall exhibition.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 83 - part 1 - On Michael Jackson" Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An A

Episode 82 – Gesamtkunstwerk
In Episode 82, our Anniversary episode, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the essay Michael Jackson's Gesamtkunstwerk: Artistic Interrelation, Immersion, and Interactivity From the Studio to the Stadium by Sylvia J. Martin.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 82 – Gesamtkunstwerk” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation, 12 no. 4 (2025). Published

Episode 81 The Road To KingVention
In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth talk about their experiences as exhibitors on KingVention ranging from 2016 till 2025. They discuss the first event and how fantastic that was with the big Dangerous Cover, the people they interviewed and remember Nicole, the student who did the course Michael Jackson Studies and who passed away not very long after. We dedicate this episode to her. We go into 2

Episode 80 – The Staging of a Media Trial
In this episode Elizabeth and Karin discuss the essay by Philipp Dominik Keidl where he explores how Michael Jackson fans responded to the sexual abuse allegations made by Wade Robson and James Safechuck in the 2019 documentary Leaving Neverland.
The focus is on a phenomenon Keidl terms "forensic fandom," where fans produce counter-documentaries and online content to defend Jackson's reputati

Episode 79 – Consuming Passions
In the second part of the book review Unfinished Business by Judith Hamera, Elizabeth and Karin discuss how Hamera writes about Consuming Passions, Wasted Efforts and Michael Jackson's Financial Melodramas. One of the important questions they ask is why using Michael Jackson and compare his dancing and financial gains and losses as deindustrialised. They ask if using only two documentaries, of whi

Episode 78 – The Labors of Michael Jackson
Abstract: In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin talk about Judith Hamera’s powerful book, Unfinished Business: Michael Jackson, Detroit, and the Figural Economy of American Deindustrialization, the concept of virtuosity in relation to Michael Jackson's labours and the labour of factory workers. They also explore the cultural and historical context of Michael Jackson's music and the potential for fu

Past-Present-Future Book 7
In this episode Karin and Elizabeth discuss four columns by Kerry Hennigan, the two podcasts of last year and dive in the introduction of an academic book titled "Unfinished Business" by Judith Hamera.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 77 – ‘Past-Present-Future Book 7’, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On An Academic Conversation 12, no. 1 (2025). Published electronically

Episode 76 – Wannabe Startin’ Somethin’
In episode 76, Karin and Elizabeth discuss the essay "Wannabe Startin' Somethin': Michael Jackson's Critical Race Representation" by Dawn-Elissa Fischer, Professor at the San Francisco State University where she teaches courses on black popular culture, information technology and virtual ethnography.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 76 – ‘Wannabe Startin' Somethin'’,

Episode 75 – Summer Edition Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On
Abstract: In Episode 75, Karin and Elizabeth speak briefly about the hiatus the Journal has been in, past episodes and great essays to read, and the 8th year of The Dangerous Philosophies and the paperback published in April this year by Bloomsbury. Elizabeth also shares her experience visiting MJ the Musical.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 75 – ‘Summer Edition’, M

Episode 74 – The Roots and Routes of Michael Jackson
Abstract: In Episode 74, Karin and Elizabeth have Dr Tristan Cabello as their guest to discuss the essay The Roots & Routes of Michael Jackson published in 2012 by Sylvia J Martin. In this compelling episode they answer questions about identity, influence, if MJ was politically used and much more.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 74 – ‘The Roots & Routes of Michael J

Episode 73 – 7 Years The Dangerous Philosophies Of Michael Jackson
Abstract: 7 Years ago, Elizabeth Amisu published her textbook The Dangerous Philosophies Of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife. In episode 73, Karin asks Elizabeth questions about the book, and she looks back on several chapters with Elizabeth.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 73 – ‘7 Years The Dangerous Philosophies Of Michael Jackson

Episode 72 – A Medley Of Essays
Abstract: In episode 72, Karin and Elizabeth discuss three essays written by three prolific black academics, Professor Wallace, Professor Royster and academic Elizabeth Amisu.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 72 – ‘A Medley Of Essays’, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On An Academic Conversation 10, no. 1 (2023). Published electronically 29/08/2023. https://michaeljacks

Episode 71 – Stranger In Moscow & They Don’t Care About Us
Abstract: In episode 71, Karin and Elizabeth discuss the two short films Stranger In Moscow & They Don't Care About Us alongside Karin’s Essay: From Throne To Wilderness: Michael Jackson’s Stranger In Moscow. They look into how Stranger in Moscow and They Don’t Care About Us, signify the perceptual and mirror the message MJ wanted us to see and hear?
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth

Episode 70 – Michael Jackson 14th Anniversary
Abstract: In this episode, Karin, Elizabeth and Kerry contemplate about 14 years of the passing of Michael Jackson. They discuss the article The Boy Who Would Fly (1983) by Hoskin and express how these 14 years are experienced and look into the future.
This episode is dedicated to Elizabeth's Father IBK, who passed untimely on Sunday, June 18, 2023May his soul Rest In Peace
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Episode 69 – Keep Moving
Abstract: In episode 69, Karin and Elizabeth, review Keep Moving: The Michael Jackson Chronicles by Armond White. They discuss each two essays and give an overview of the essays of the book and where you can buy it.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 69 – ‘Keep Moving’, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On An Academic Conversation 10, no. 4 (2023). Published electronically

Episode 68 – Otherness & Power Review
Abstract: In episode 68, Karin and Elizabeth review Otherness & Power by Susan Woodward. They go deep into the content of the three books and articles Susan analysed and conclude that the book remains essential to read especially for new fans and scholars who want to write about Michael Jackson and his art, to not fall into the factless tabloid trap.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth

Episode 67 – Throwing Stones To Hide Your Hands
Abstract: In episode 67, Karin and Elizabeth go back to the first essay published in the journal: Throwing Stones To Hide Your Hands, The Immortal Personas Of Michael Jackson. They discuss the origins, the need to write this and why it was important to revisit this essay.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 67 – 'Throwing Stones To Hide Your Hands', Michael Jackson’s Dr

Episode 66 – Academic Book Review Man In The Music
Abstract: In Episode 66 of Michael Jackson's Dream Lives On, Karin and Elizabeth discuss both editions of Man In The Music by Dr Joseph Vogel. They cover a wide range of topics and explicitly explain how to use this in academic research.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 66 – Academic Book Review Man In The Music by Dr Joseph Vogel, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: A

Episode 65 – Past-Present-Future Book 6
Abstract: In episode 65, Karin and Elizabeth discuss Past-Present-Future Book 6 of the journal. What did we do in the past year, where are we, and what are future plans?
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 65 – Past-Present-Future Book 6, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 10, no. 4 (2022). Published electronically 27/01/2023. https://michaeljacks

Episode 64 – In The Studio With MJ & Thriller 40
In Episode 64 of Michael Jacksons Dream Lives On, Karin and Elizabeth discuss In The Studio With MJ, an event Liz went to, and the Thriller 40 album and short films that were released to celebrate 40 years of Thriller.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 64 – In The Studio With MJ & Thriller 40, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 10, no. 4 (2022).

Episode 63 – Re-imagining Michael Jackson
Abstract: Alper Yesiltas’ reimagining of Michael Jackson went viral and was even chosen as an image for the September Journal of Michael Jackson Academic Studies newsletter, described as ‘thought-provoking’. In this episode, we follow MJ academic and recovering PhD scholar, Geneva S. Thomas through her excellent thread of tweets that explore the impact reimaginings of Michael Jackson have and what

Episode 62 – Part III – Interview Kerry Hennigan
Abstract: In this episode (Part III), Karin and Elizabeth have a special guest, Kerry Hennigan, columnist of the journal. This three-part series discusses nine columns Elizabeth and Kerry wrote to celebrate the 80th MJAS column.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 62 –Part III Interview with Kerry Hennigan & MJ Studies Today” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An

Episode 61 – Exclusive – KingVention 2022 Interview with Elizabeth Amisu
Abstract: MJDLO Exclusive! Elizabeth Amisu was at KingVention 2022 with her book The Dangerous Philosophies Of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Life, and His Afterlife. She met incredible people and shares her experiences with us. We also discuss the acknowledgement of Michael Jackson in Academics.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 61 –KingVention 2022 an Interview with

Episode 60 – Part II Interview Kerry Hennigan & MJ Studies Today
Abstract: In this episode (Part II), Karin and Elizabeth have a special guest, Kerry Hennigan, columnist of the journal. In this three-part series, they discuss nine columns Elizabeth and Kerry wrote to celebrate the 80th MJAS column.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 60 –Part II Interview with Kerry Hennigan & MJ Studies Today” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives O

Episode 59 – Part I Interview with Kerry Hennigan & MJ Studies Today
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth have special guest Kerry Hennigan, columnist for the journal. In this III-part series, they discuss nine columns Elizabeth and Kerry wrote to celebrate 80 columns, and interview Kerry.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 59 –Part I Interview with Kerry Hennigan & MJ Studies Today" Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On:

Episode 58 – His Beauteous Race
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth discuss the last essay in the Nakan Journal: The Cultural Inheritance of Michael Jackson: reading the Performance of High-Status Blackness in Video and on Stage by Elizabeth Amisu.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 58 –His Beauteous Race” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 9, no. 1 (2022).

Episode 57 – Exclusive Interview with Film Director Marcos Cabotá
Abstract: In this exclusive episode, Elizabeth and Karin have Marcos Cabotá as their guest. They discuss the documentary in an academic setting and also discuss Marcos' documentary Sonic Fantasy. A lot of wise words, great questions with great answers and all in all a lovely and necessary interview.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 57 – An Interview with film director

Episode 56 – Review & Discussion of the Nakan Issue 2 (Part 2)
In episode 56, Karin and Elizabeth review the second issue, 2022 of the Nakan Journal: MICHAEL JACKSON’S ARTISTIC CONTRIBUTIONS: ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE Edited by Isabelle PETITJEAN. In this second part, they continue the discussion of the issue with the essays written by Aurélie Doignon, Luca Izzo, Zada Johnson and Elisabeth Amisu.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 56 – R

Episode 55 – Review and Discussion of Nakan Journal (Part 1)
Abstract
In episode 55, Karin and Elizabeth review the second issue, 2022 of the Nakan Journal: MICHAEL JACKSON’S ARTISTIC CONTRIBUTIONS: ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE Edited by Isabelle PETITJEAN. In this first part, they discuss the issue in general and the essays written by Guillaume Deveney, Mathilde Recly, Fabio Pastore, Buata B. Malela and Isabelle Petitjean.
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Merx, Karin, and E

Episode 54 – Review and discussion of the Thesis by Ryan Garey
Abstract
In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth review the MA thesis of Ryan Gary, “Who’s Bad?” Disrupting Cultural (Re)Production Through Representations of Michael Jackson. They review every chapter so listeners can decide if this thesis can be a good starting point or be used as a referral for their own thesis.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 54 – Review of the

Episode 53 – Review of the MA thesis of Kelly O’Riley
Abstract
In episode 53, Karin and Elizabeth Discuss and review the MA thesis, recently published in the Journal, The Hagiography and teratology and the HIStory of Michael Jackson. They simultaneously talk about biographies and what they should entail for academics, but also how critical readers need to be when reading them.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 53 – Rev

Episode 52 Review and Discussion of the Academic Book by Pinder Episode 52 – Review and Discussion of the Academic Book by Pinder
Abstract
In this episode, Elizabeth and Karin review the academic book Michael Jackson And The Quandary Of A Black Identity by Sherrow O Pinder. The premise of Pinder's book is: What does it mean to be black in America. Elizabeth and Karin go in-depth in this academic book and share their thoughts with you.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 52 – Review and Discussio

Episode 51 – Past-Present-Future Book 5
Abstract
With this first episode, Karin and Elizabeth take a trip down memory lane with Kerry Hennigan's Columns of MJ Studies Today as a lead and talk about the present and the future of the Journal.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 51 – Past-Present-Future Book 5 ” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 8, no. 2 (2022). Published elec

Episode 50 – Exclusive
Abstract
In this exclusive, Elizabeth and Karin talk about ten songs that they really like and why. A non-academic birthday conversation about the music of Michael Jackson.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 50 – Exclusive The 10 songs of Karin & Elizabeth – MJAS Exclusive” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 8, no. 1 (2021). Published

Episode 49 – MJAS Exclusive – Faking It
Abstract
In this exclusive, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the program Faking It of the streaming service Discovery+. They analyse the footage, the premise and the way they try to shoehorn Michael Jackson into an abuser role by way of using debunked and highly questionable footage as the source.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 49 – Faking It - MJAS Exclusive” Podcas

Episode 48 – Part 2 On The Wall
Abstract
In part 2 of On The Wall, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the exhibition guided by the catalogue and the art and artists curated by Elizabeth. They walk you through the exhibition as if they are there explaining what they see and put it into context.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 48 – On The Wall Part 2” Podcast, Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Aca

Episode 47 – On The Wall Part 1
Abstract
In part 1 of On The Wall, Elizabeth and Karin discuss the exhibition guided by the Directors Essay The Last Modernist. They talk about the entry of Margot Jefferson and why they think it wasn't maybe such a good idea to have her write her essay and several artists who participated in this travelling exhibition.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 47 – On

Episode 46 – Xscape
Abstract
In this special, Elizabeth and Karin have Brice Najar as a guest. They discuss the album Xscape on various levels. A discussion about copyright, the integrity to finish the art of an artist, and if so do you put it out as an original Michael Jackson or not and much more. In this lovely, challenging and sometimes bold discussion they agree on one thing. Teach young Michael Jackson fans fr

Episode 45 – Stranger in Moscow
Abstract
In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth discuss Stranger in Moscow, the meaning and the symbols in the short film and the lyrics.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 45 – Stranger in Moscow ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 7, no. 4 (2021). Published electronically 21/03/21. https://michaeljacksonstudies.org/past-prsent-future-book-4/

Episode 44 – Earth Song
In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth revisit Earth Song and they discuss its relevance today. The messages Michael Jackson always had in his songs, the power of this particular song and how we should take his messages very seriously and start action upon it.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 44 - Earth Song” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 7,

Episode 43 – Past – Present – Future Book 4
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, look back, tell where they are right now and look into the future of The Journal of Michael Jackson Academic Studies.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 43 – Past - Present - Future Book 4 ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 7, no. 3 (2021). Published electronically 14/01/21. https://michaeljac

Episode 42 – Exploring Stevie Wonder & Michael Jackson
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, explore Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson through the album Songs In The Key Of Life, and the works of Michael Jackson. They both encourage readers who are interested in researching and writing about Stevie Wonder, to send their works to the journal.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 42 – Exploring Stevie Wonder and M

Episode 41 – Leaving Neverland & The Real Michael Jackson
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, finally decided that the documentaries Leaving Neverland and The Real Michael Jackson needed to be discussed. It took them quite a while to watch the documentaries and they are uneasy topics to discuss. However, we found that new Michael Jackson scholars need to be informed. It is therefore that we also put as much resources in the show notes as poss

Episode 40 - Moonwalker Episode 40 – Moonwalker
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, discuss Michael Jackson's Moonwalker film and see if there is a narrative more than it is just an anthology.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 40 – Moonwalker ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 6, no. 1 (2020). Published electronically 21/07/20. http://michaeljacksonstudies.org/moonwalker/

Episode 39 – MJ & Civil Rights
Abstract: In this Special episode, Karin and Elizabeth, discuss Michael Jackson and civil Rights and how he addressed institutional racism in his Art
NB: Unfortunately there is a disturbing noise in the last 5 minutes of the recording. I was unable to delete it from the recording and decided the topic is too important to cut it all out. My excuses to the listeners.

Episode 38 – The King of Pop & Queen Bey
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, discuss Michael Jackson and Beyoncé also known as The King of Pop and Queen Bey, and how they fit into the archetype of Black Royalty.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 38 – The King of Pop & Queen Bey" Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 6, no. 4 (2020). Published electronically 10/06/20. http:

Episode 37 – Interview with Dr. Susan Rogers
Abstract: In this episode, Karin has Dr. Susan Rogers, sound engineer of Prince as quest. They discuss musicality, difference in recording style between Michael Jackson and Prince, and posthumous releases amongst other things.
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Merx, Karin and Dr. Susan Rogers. “Episode 37 – ‘Interview with Dr. Susan Rogers’ ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 6, no. 37 (2

Episode 36 – Michael Jackson FAQ
Abstract: In the light of Michael Jackson's 9th Anniversary, Karin has Dr. Kit O'Toole as guest. They discuss O'Toole's book Michael Jackson FAQ: All That's Left To Know About The King Of Pop, a tribute to the greatest artist that moonwalked this earth.
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Merx, Karin. “Episode 36 – ‘Michael Jackson FAQ’ ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 5, no. 4 (2018). P

Episode 35 – ‘A Good Artist Copies, and A Great Artist Steals’
Abstract: In this episode, Karin discusses how artists create, and take from life and experiences. What we perceive as 'new' and 'authentic', and how this has been looked at through history till today.
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Merx, Karin. “Episode 35 – 'A Good Artist Copies, and A Great Artist Steals' ” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 5, no. 3 (2018). Published electronically

Episode 34 – 2017 Recap, Past, Present, Future Book III
Abstract: In the first episode of 2018, Karin and Elizabeth look back into the year 2017 and how the Journal has evolved, and what she has contributed to the academic landscape of Michael Jackson Studies.
To listen to the extended versions of our previous episodes, join us at Patreon.com/mjdlo and become a member.http://patreon.com/mjdlo.
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Merx, Karin, Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 3

Episode 33 – Part 2 of The Lost Recordings ‘Scream’ & ‘You Rock My World’
Abstract: This episode is the second part of the lost recordings. I talk about the songs and short films 'Scream', and 'You Rock My World'. Taking in consideration the cultural context and the symbolism of the visuals of 'Scream' and 'You Rock My World'.
To listen to the extended versions of our previous episodes, join us at Patreon.com/mjdlo and become a member.http://patreon.com/mjdlo.
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Episode 32 – Part 1 of The Lost Recordings ‘Leave Me Alone’ & ‘Jam’
Abstract: This episode is the first part of the lost recordings. I talk about the songs and short films 'Leave Me Alone', and 'Jam'. Taking in consideration the production context, symbolism of the visuals and using the recently published thesis of Andreas Ardanic to discuss 'Leave Me Alone'.
To listen to the extended versions of our previous episodes, join us at Patreon.com/mjdlo and become a me

Episode 31 – A compilation of our Most Loved Episodes
Abstract: In this episode, we have compiled the episodes we loved most. We encourage you, of course, to listen to them again.
To listen to the extended versions of our previous episodes, join us at Patreon.com/mjdlo and become a member.http://patreon.com/mjdlo.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 31 – A Compilation of our Most Loved Episodes” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives

Episode 30 – Celebrating The Dangerous Philosophies, Part II: MJ in the BL
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth continue their discussion to celebrate the first anniversary of The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson, His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife. In part two Elizabeth talks about the 21 lesson course that she developed to accompany 'The Dangerous Philosophies', what it means to have 'The Dangerous Philosophies' in the BL, and how a r

Episode 29 – Celebrating The Dangerous Philosophies: Part 1
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth discuss 'The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson: His Music, His Persona, and His Artistic Afterlife' and its first anniversary. In part one Elizabeth discusses the history of the book and her secrets of combining creativity and research. An extended version of this episode is accessible by becoming a Patron at http://patreon.com/mjdlo.
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Episode 28 – Michael Jackson and Fashion
Abstract: In this episode Karin and Elizabeth discuss Michael Jackson's groundbreaking use of clothing and costume, creating his own unique brand of fashion. We also explore Jackson's unique sense of style and the hidden meanings behind his use of cosmetics to create highly memorable characters, which remain iconic to this day.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 28 – Micha

Episode 27 – Part 2: 8 Years – 8 Short Films
Abstract: In Part 2: 8 Years - 8 Short Films, Karin and Elizabeth discuss The Way You Make Me Feel and Speed Demon. Also Happy Birthday to our Journal (3 years) and to Elizabeth (30 years).
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 27 – Part 2: 8 Years, 8 Short Films” Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 4, no. 1 (2017). Published electronically 21/07/17. h

Episode 26 – Part 1: 8 Years – 8 Short films
Abstract: This year on June 25, we remember Michael Jackson. It is already 8 years ago that he passed away. In this episode, and the next three, Karin and Elizabeth discuss 8 short films of Michael Jackson. In this episode they talk about Can You Feel It and Beat It short films.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 26 – Part 1: 8 Years - 8 Short Films” Michael Jackson’s Dr

Episode 25 – The order of the songs on Michael Jackson’s Invincible Album
Abstract: Invincible and the order of the songs. Karin and Elizabeth, discuss the last studio album of Michael Jackson, Invincible. The main question is: Is there a specific order in the way Michael Jackson assembled the songs on his album Invincible, and to what extend do they have a relation to the various colours used on the cd covers and/or the portrait?
REFERENCE AS:
Merx, Karin, and Eliz

Episode 24 – Analysing Michael Jackson’s ‘Who Is It’
Abstract: In this brand new episode, Karin and Elizabeth, analyse Michael Jackson's short film Who is It. The main question is: To what extent can 'Who is It' give us insight into Gender, Race & Sexuality other than the betrayal of a man by a woman?
REFERENCE AS:
Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 24 – Analysing Who is It according to the underlying message about Gender, Race & Sexuali

Episode 23 – Michael Jackson as an Actor
Abstract: In this episode, Karin and Elizabeth, discuss Michael Jackson as an actor. The focus on his life, performance, film and how he was able, and what he used to play his audience.
REFERENCE AS:
Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 23 – Michael Jackson as an Actor" Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversation 3, no. 4 (2017). Published electronically 7/03/17. http://mi

Episode 22 – International Michael Jackson Research
Abstract: In this episode, Karin, Elizabeth, and guest Ivana Recmanova discuss topics and articles of international Michael Jackson research. They talk about research from the Biblical, Philosophical, Gender and posthumous perspectives.
REFERENCE AS:
Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth Amisu. “Episode 22 – Michael Jackson in International Research" Michael Jackson’s Dream Lives On: An Academic Conversa

Episode 21 – 2016 Recap: Past, Present and Future Book II
Abstract: What has the Journal accomplished in 2016? And that all-important question, where is it going next? In the words of the King of Pop himself, ‘every day create your history, every path you take you’re leaving your legacy’. In this episode we talk about the past, the present and the future of The Journal of Michael Jackson Academic Studies online.
REFERENCE AS:
Merx, Karin, and Elizab

Episode 20 – Michael Jackson & Cleopatra
Abstract: This episode is about Michael Jackson and the Egyptian ruler, Cleopatra. Karin and Elizabeth discuss Michael Jackson's personal art collection, his personal and creative interest in Cleopatra, and the representation of high-status black people in western culture. To expand your knowledge on this topic take our Michael Jackson & Black History Online Course. Take one of our 17 Michael Jack

Episode 19 – Celebrating Dangerous 25: Michael Jackson’s ‘Dancing the Dream’
Abstract: This episode is a celebration of Michael Jackson's 1991 album, Dangerous, which has its 25th anniversary this month. Karin, Elizabeth, and special guest, author Andy Healy discuss Michael Jackson’s 1992 publication, Dancing the Dream: Poems & Reflections. The three researchers draw new conclusions inspired by the chapter, 'On Michael Jackson's Dancing the Dream' in Elizabeth's Dangerous

Episode 18 – Halloween Special: ‘Ghosts’
Abstract: In this Halloween (2016) episode Karin and Elizabeth discuss Michael Jackson’s 1997 short film, 'Ghosts'. Going into amazing detail on the film-making, cinematography, acting, and many of the hidden social and political ideas which lurk beneath the surface. They also discuss the theme of transformation in Jackson's work, including 'Thriller'.
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Merx, Karin, and Elizabeth A
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