POW: The Psychology of Work
POW is the Psychology of Work podcast from the Association for Business Psychology. It features interviews with leading thinkers and practitioners in business psychology, covering topics like the gig economy, leadership, personality, and assessment. Guests include Emma Jones MBE, Matthew Taylor, James Bloodworth, and Professor Peter Saville.
Episodes
Episode 53: The new Professional Framework for Workplace Wellbeing, discussed with Dr Rachel Lewis
The Affinity Health at Work Research Consortium, co-chaired by Dr Rachel Lewis and Dr Jo Yarker, has recently launched the ground-breaking Professional Framework for Workplace Wellbeing, which is the first multi-disciplinary, integrated evidence-informed foundation for the profession. The Research Consortium brings together range of organisations and stakeholders such as the Institution of Occupat
Episode 52: Leadership resilience in the age of AI – A conversation with Dr Marie-Hélène Pelletier
As a thought-leader and experienced executive coach, Marie-Hélène Pelletier is a recognised expert in enabling leaders to develop their strategic personal resilience. However, as AI continues to transform work, the pressures on leaders are becoming not only greater but also different in kind. In an engaging discussion with Rob Feltham, Marie-Hélène provides a coherent analysis of how the very esse
Episode 51: It’s not just about working longer – Tatiana Rowson discusses her new book on navigating longevity and the age of no retirement
In discussion with Rob Feltham, Tatiana Rowson describes how the world is experiencing an unprecedented demographic shift in the profile of the workforce. People today are living longer and often healthier lives than ever before in history and are increasingly also working into much later life than has been the case in the past. What is frequently overlooked is that it is not just the length of pe
Episode 50: Coaching in the outdoor environment – Jonathan Passmore and Ellie Lloyd-Jones explain why it works and how to do it
In a conversation with Rob Feltham about their new book Outdoor Coaching: A Practical Guide, Jonathan Passmore and Ellie Lloyd-Jones make a compelling case for undertaking coaching away from typical office-based or online settings. The outside environment adds new dimensions and possibilities to the coaching process. It also presents significant challenges, and the book guides readers step by step
Episode 49: The ABP’s first quarter century – looking back and looking forward, with Pauline Grant, Claire Lish and Steve Whiddett
This special episode of the Psychology of Work Podcast marks the 25th anniversary of the ABP, and in it we hear from three distinguished ABP members who have each served as Chair or Vice Chair at different points in the organisation’s history. In discussion with Rob Feltham, they reflect on what the ABP has achieved during its first quarter of century and share their aspirations for the ABP’s futu
Episode 48: Conversation that generates positive change – Sarah Rozenthuler discusses her latest book Now We’re Talking
Authentic dialogue is a rare thing within many businesses and organisations and, in discussion with Rob Feltham, Sarah Rozenthuler outlines some of the practical ways in which leaders can address this gap and reap the benefits in terms of creativity, flow and ‘thinking together’. Topics covered in this podcast include: psychological safety which is a necessary but not sufficient condition for auth
Episode 47: The genie is out of the bottle – Business Psychology in the age of AI, with Alan Bourne, Dexter Winters and Kate Young
In an engaging discussion hosted by Rob Feltham, three eminent business psychologists working at the frontiers of AI share their perspectives on how the profession can remain impactful and relevant in a world of work rapidly being transformed. The conversation starts with a macro view of AI at work, and the role of psychologists in helping organisations design and implement their AI strategies. Th
Episode 46: A conversation with Dr Mike Rugg-Gunn, author of Managing Talent, A Short Guide for the Digital Age
In discussion with Rob Feltham, Mike shares thought-provoking perspectives on a range of talent topics including: real-time performance management; neuroscience in psychometric assessment; the ever-increasing importance of the freelance workforce as a central element of the talent pool; generational stereotypes (Gen Y, Gen Z etc); and the urgent need for the UK to become world class in digital ski
Episode 45: Can leaders catch themselves in flight? A conversation with Ross McIntosh about Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)
In discussion with Rob Feltham, Ross McIntosh provides a fascinating overview of the ACT framework and how it can help leaders to build psychological flexibility, in part by managing the interactions between their ‘inner voices’ and the ways that they show up at work. Topics covered include: building self awareness with the help of the Micro Pause and Macro Pause; managing transitions between lead
Episode 44: You can forget your past but it won’t forget you – Nik Kinley discusses his latest book.
Nik Kinley is a business psychologist and successful author with over 30 years’ experience specialising in assessing leaders, changing people’s behaviour and evolving organisational cultures. In an engaging discussion with Rob Feltham, Nik talks about his latest book, co-authored with Shlomo Ben-Hur, entitled Re-writing your Leadership Code: How your childhood made you the leader you are, and what
Episode 43: The wonderful thing about diversity – Philip Wilson discusses the transformation undergone by Civil Service Fast Stream
In discussion with Rob Feltham, Philip Wilson, brings to life his remarkable journey as Chief Psychologist for UK Civil Service Fast Stream and Emerging Talent. He has led the design of the Fast Stream assessment process, along with the diversity and inclusion strategy and leadership curriculum. The diversity profile of the intake has been transformed in recent years, and Phil provides fascinating
Episode 42: Vision and values are not enough – A conversation with David Sharpley, author of Leadership Principles and Purpose
David Sharpley is a leadership development expert and experienced organisational psychologist. In an absorbing discussion with Rob Feltham, David draws on his own extensive experience and research, and shares valuable insights into what distinguishes healthy organisations from unhealthy and self-destructive ones, examples of the latter being UK Post Office and RBS. David is critical of widely shar
Episode 41: Senior leadership disclosure of mental health lived experience: A conversation with Dr Rachel Lewis
Rachel Lewis is widely published in the field of health and wellbeing at work and has contributed to national guidance, and evidence-based tools and interventions. We are delighted to have Rachel as our guest for this special podcast to mark Mental Health Awareness Week, 2024. In discussion with Alex Forsythe, Rachel provides fresh and sometimes counterintuitive insights into mental health at wor
Episode 40: Challenging assumptions about psychometric assessment and reshaping our practice: A conversation with Professor Steve Woods
Professor Steve Woods works at the leading edge of research into personality at work, including psychometric and personality trait assessment, and personality development and change. In conversation here with Rob Feltham, he discusses two recent and important peer reviewed articles in which he and co-researchers have critically examined and challenged current assumptions and practices in the field
Episode 39: Women Leaders in Online Learning – Alex Forsythe in discussion with Vicky Irwin, Kate Lindsay and Jo-Anne Murray
In this special edition ABP podcast to mark International Women’s Day 2024, we hear from four distinguished female leaders who have been instrumental in shaping the exciting field of online learning over the past two decades. Innovation in the online learning space is transforming education to become much more: accessible and inclusive; responsive to the fast changing skills requirements of indust
Episode 38: Authentic Personal Branding - A conversation with David Royston-Lee and Sylvana Storey, authors of Brand You
David Royston-Lee and Dr Sylvana Storey have recently published an updated third edition of their highly popular book, Brand You – a readable and practical guide to developing one’s personal brand (details below). In conversation with Rob Feltham, David and Sylvana provide the rationale for, and powerful examples of, developing a strong and consistent personal brand. They also point to the pitfall
Episode 37: How are Leadership Expectations Evolving? A conversation with Dan Hughes, Senior Director R&D at Talogy
Dan Hughes is Senior Director of Research and Development at Talogy, a global talent management consultancy that specialises in selection, development and engagement of talent and whose solutions blend state-of-art psychology and technology. In discussion with Professor Alex Forsythe, Dan describes some of the key findings from Talogy’s extensive research in the leadership space. He highlights in
Episode 36: Growing the next generation of business psychologists – A Conversation with Dr Dawn H. Nicholson, Vice Chair of the ABP
In a special edition of the ABP podcast series, recorded to mark National Career Development Month November 2023, we hear Dawn Nicholson in conversation with Rob Feltham. Drawing a highly successful career which has spanned business and academia, Dawn has led pioneering initiatives for the Association for Business Psychology which have included building the ABP’s university accreditation programme
Episode 35: Infinite perspectives, embracing the power of diversity -– A conversation with Joy Maitland, Managing Director of Inemmo UK
In a special edition of the ABP podcast series, recorded during Black History Month 2023, we hear Joy Maitland in conversation with Dawn Nicholson. The discussion delves deep into the heart of inclusivity, unravelling the immense potential that lies within embracing diversity and exploring the boundless strength that diverse perspectives bring to the table. Diversity isn’t just a buzzword. It is t
Episode 34: Stop, think and ask ‘what is the problem’ ? A conversation with Professor Rob Briner
Rob Briner is an inspirational thought leader in the field of evidence based practice in management and HR. In a wide ranging discussion with Rob Feltham he highlights the dangers of business psychologists and other practitioners becoming submersed in “activity” without considering sufficiently how their work addresses the client organization’s overall goals and needs. He also highlights the poten
Episode 33: Performance, well-being and collaboration through a mindset of Growth - A conversation with Rich Cook, CEO of Mindset Practice
Rich is the founder of Mindset Practice and author of an evidence-based suite of applied humanistic psychology solutions, including innovative psychometrics, that enable people to perform more consistently from a mindset of Growth than Survival. In discussion with Alex Forsythe, Rich describes how he has drawn on psychological models from areas such as transactional analysis, growth mindset theory
Episode 32: Putting psychology into practice: A discussion with Sunaina Sinha Haldea, Global Head of Private Capital Advisory, Raymond James
Sunaina Sinha Haldea began life from humble beginnings, playing on the streets of India and Vietnam as a child - yet went on to found leading global placement agent and secondaries advisory firm Cebile Capital in 2011, which was subsequently acquired by Raymond James, a Fortune-500 financial services firm, where she now works as Global Head of Private Capital Advisory. Having been Stanford and Har
Episode 31: Overcoming ageism in the workplace and society - A conversation with Lyndsey Simpson, CEO of 55 Redefined
The rapidly increasing age profile of the UK’s workforce creates both strategic and psychological challenges for employers, for individuals, and for society as a whole. Lyndsey Simpson works across a wide range of industries and sectors to help employers revamp their recruitment and employment practices with regard to older workers. In this episode, Lyndsey is interviewed by Lucy Standing who, as
Episode 30: An interview with Jo Maddocks, author of the Emotional Intelligence Profile
Dr Jolyon (Jo) Maddocks has played an influential role in the development of psychometrically based approaches to the assessment and development of emotional intelligence. In conversation here with Rob Feltham, he provides a fascinating account of how the emotional intelligence concept originally captured the imagination of business leaders and rapidly became an integral part of business thinking.
Episode 29: The curse of evaluative bias in psychometrics and moving beyond it – A conversation with Stewart Desson, CEO of Lumina learning
In discussion with Rob Feltham, Stewart shares his innovative approach to personality assessment, and in particular how he has worked to overcome reductionism and evaluative bias. Topics covered include: neurodivergence as a continuum; personality as a lens through which to understand the impacts of the ‘enforced experiment’ of remote working during the pandemic and beyond; and effective leadershi
Episode 28: Brand resilience in turbulent times – A conversation with Nathalie Nahai, author of Business Unusual
In a wide-ranging discussion with Rob Feltham, Nathalie shares her insights into factors that help make some businesses and brands resilient and sustainable in competitive markets and during challenging times. Topics covered include the Thoughtful Marketing movement, the interaction of values-based consumer choices and purchasing power, and the market dominance of some global brands. Nathalie’s b
Episode 27: Empowering the volunteer – A conversation with Sakshi Bansal, UNESCO Kindness Leader
This special podcast episode features Sakshi Bansal, recipient of the 2021 ABP Chair’s Award for Excellence in Business Psychology, in recognition of her pioneering work as founder of Project LEAP. In conversation with Alex Forsythe, Sakshi gives a fascinating description of how she took LEAP from small beginnings to an initiative with world-wide impact, something that has been recognised by UNESC
Episode 26: Workplace wellbeing during challenging times – A conversation with Claire de Carteret
In an engaging discussion with Alex Forsythe, Claire de Carteret points to alarming current trends in workplace well-being globally, and offers practical advice to leaders and employees about how to create exceptional workplaces which have net positive impact on people and the planet. Claire makes a compelling case for adopting a strengths based approach in organisations, and points to the critica
Episode 25: A single voice can make a difference – An interview with Nuala Walsh
In an absorbing discussion with Alex Forsythe, Nuala discusses her research into bystander effects in organisations, and outlines the practical steps that companies can take to encourage their employees to ‘blow the whistle’ on unethical behaviours. Nuala also discusses her own career and explains some of the career routes available to those looking to work in her field. Nuala is Founder and CEO
Episode 24: Work is broken – An interview with Rob Baker, author of ‘Personalisation at Work’
In conversation with Rob Feltham prior to his presentation to the recent ABP annual conference, Rob Baker discusses why modern work practices are failing us - constraining rather than amplifying our diverse skills, strengths, passions and interests. Globally over 90% of us aren’t engaged, excited, and energised about our jobs. Rob argues that Job Crafting is part of the solution, shaping work arou
Episode 23: The pace of change is too slow – A conversation with John Amaechi, OBE
In an absorbing discussion with Alex Forsythe, John Amaechi talks about his background, his views on leadership and the supposed ‘new normal’, and the need for radical change in a post Covid world. He also shares some of his personal experiences and perspectives on life. John is a respected organisational psychologist, best-selling New York Times author, sought after public speaker, executive coa
Episode 22: An interview with Ian Robertson, author of ‘How Confidence Works’
In conversation with Rob Feltham, Professor Ian Robertson discusses some of the themes from his recently published and critically acclaimed book entitled How Confidence Works. He describes how confidence is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy and how it can be enhanced, and he draws attention to the upsides and downsides of overconfidence and narcissism. He provides fascinating insights into:
Episode 21: Feeling abnormal in an abnormal world – A discussion with Dr Nancy Doyle about neurodiversity and organisational inclusion
In discussion with ABP Board member Guy Cohen, Dr Nancy Doyle provides a challenging critique of how organisations ‘tick the box of diversity inclusion’ whilst their recruitment and development practices perpetuate segregation. She also points to the failings of the education system in preparing young people for the workplace. She brings clarity to the complex terminology surrounding neurodiversit
Episode 20: Learning and Development in a Digital by Default world – A conversation with Donald Taylor
Donald Taylor is a well-known commentator and organiser in the field of workplace learning and learning technologies. In an engaging discussion with ABP Vice Chair Lucy Standing, he shares his perspectives on the future of L&D, highlighting both the dangers of the training course “treadmill” and the huge opportunities for L&D professionals who partner with their organisations and embrace performan
Episode 19: The world could use a little more wisdom – An interview with Chip Conley
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, features Chip Conley – New York Times bestselling author and the maverick iconic boutique hotelier who helped Airbnb’s founders turn their fast-growing tech start-up into a global hospitality brand. In an engaging discussion with ABP board member Nicky Thompson, Chip shares his love for psychology and offers practical insights into how an unders
Episode 18: When a robot becomes your boss – A discussion with Anton Fishman, HR & Talent Tech Start-up Advisor
In a fascinating discussion with ABP Chair Professor Alex Forsythe, Anton shares his insights into, and predictions about, the future of work, and the role of business psychologists in a world where machine intelligence and human intelligence live side by side. Some of the “corrals” that psychologists have traditionally built around areas of their expertise are unsustainable, whilst the “deeply hu
Episode 17: Psychology and Data Science at a Crossroads -- An interview with Robert Newry
In an absorbing discussion with ABP Board member Uzma Waseem, Robert shares his perspectives on the converging paths of data science, cognitive neuroscience, technology and business psychology in the pursuit of innovation. He points to the huge benefits to be gained from working across disciplines towards common goals, and he highlights some of the current ‘mindset’ barriers. Topics covered in th
Episode 16: The Future of Work is Here – An Interview with Dr Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, was recorded after Dr Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic’s keynote at the 2020 Association for Business Psychology Conference. In a fascinating discussion with ABP board member Nicky Thompson, Tomas shares his thoughts on, among other things, the critical role of leadership in the pandemic and the challenges and opportunities it presents; the importance o
Episode 15: Professor Sir Cary Cooper on a post-Covid leadership agenda
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, features an absorbing discussion between Professor Sir Cary Cooper, CBE, and Professor Alex Forsythe, recorded shortly after Sir Cary’s keynote at the 2020 Association for Business Psychology Conference. Sir Cary shares his thoughts on, among other things, what have we learned from the Covid crisis as we enter a major recession, and the current
Episode 14 - Kate Waters and Rory Sutherland on behavioural biases and psychology in marketing
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, features a fascinating discussion with Kate Waters, Director of Strategy and Client at ITV, and Rory Sutherland, vice chair of Ogilvy UK, TED talk superstar and ABP Honorary Member, recorded at the 2019 ABP Conference. They discuss how biases inform how we think about behaviour, TV, advertising, technology, and the value of psychological 'moonsh
Episode 13 - Eric Singler, CEO and founder of BVA Nudge Unit, on driving successful behaviour change
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, features a fascinating interview with Eric Singler, the Founder, President and CEO of the BVA Nudge Unit, recorded at the 2019 ABP Conference following his keynote speech. Eric is also Global Managing Director of the BVA Group, one of the 15 largest consulting and market research firms in the world (www.bva-group.com). Eric is an entrepreneur, a
Episode 12 - Claudia Hammond, presenter of BBC Radio 4's 'All in the Mind', on the psychology of money
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, features an interview with Claudia Hammond, an award-winning broadcaster, writer and academic psychologist, conducted after her keynote at the 2019 ABP Conference. Hammond is the presenter of All in the Mind, Case Study & Mind Changers on BBC Radio 4 and the weekly Health Check on BBC World Service Radio & BBC World News TV. She has appeared oft
Episode 11 - An Interview with Bruce Daisley, Author of ’The Joy of Work’ and Host of the ‘Eat, Sleep, Work, Repeat’ Podcast
This episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, is a fascinating interview with Bruce Daisley, author of Sunday Times bestselling book 'The Joy of Work' (published as 'Eat, Sleep, Work, Repeat' in the USA) and host of the number 1 European business podcast 'Eat, Sleep, Work, Repeat'. At the time of interview (October 2019), Daisley was the VP of Twitter for Europe, Middle East and Africa, and
Episode 10 - Creating Lasting Behaviour Change in The Workplace
In this episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, Dr Zara Whysall and Carina Derrick from Kiddy and Partners share insights on how to create behaviour change amongst business leaders, recognising context, mindset and skillset - building on their great talk at the 2019 ABP Conference. How can we help facilitate change when that pace of change is increasing, particularly at times of crisis? Ho
Episode 9: Encouraging Social Mobility - An Interview with Neil Morrison
This inspiring podcast looks at the issue of social mobility in the labour force, focussing on the questions organisations need to consider regarding recruitment, retention and promotion of the best talent in their business. Neil Morrison, HR Director at Severn Trent, talks about the steps they have taken as an organisation to support social mobility, with the support of their workforce and their
Episode 8: An Interview with Dr Susan Kahn, resilience expert and author of 'Bounce Back'
What is resilience? How do we define it? How does it manifest itself? Can we build up our resilience 'muscle' so that we can cope with difficulties, adversities or unexpected changes and still be able to function, especially in the workplace? In this episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, we speak to Dr Susan Kahn, business psychologist, consultant, coach, mediator and author of the new b
Episode 7: Could you be a certified business psychologist?
Do you want to become a certified business psychologist? In this episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, we give you an insight into the certification process and the benefits it brings. You can hear from some of the key people involved in our certification program, and hear first-hand from people who have been through the process: Debbie Hance, one of the mentors for the program; Brian Ba
Episode 6: Personality and Risk - An Interview with Geoff Trickey
Have you ever wondered why some people seem to love taking risks, whilst others shy away from it? In this episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, Geoff Trickey (CEO of Psychological Consultancy Ltd) talks about the link between risk and personality. Could uncovering your staff’s risk type could help you to understand how each individual employee perceives, reacts and manages themselves in
Episode 5: The Big Nudge - the 2019 ABP Conference, with Kate Waters, Rory Sutherland and Kate Glazebrook
In this episode of POW, the Psychology of Work podcast, we preview this year's ABP conference on 10th and 11th October (https://theabpconference.org.uk). The theme of this year's conference is 'The Big Nudge: Behavioural Economics meets Business Psychology', and features exclusive interviews with three people at the forefront of applying behavioural economics/science in business, who are speaking
Episode 4: An Interview with Professor Ivan Robertson
This episode of the Psychology of Work podcast looks at wellbeing in the workplace. It gives us an insight into what this means and how businesses can try to create 'good days at work for everyone, everywhere'. Our podcast features an interview with Professor Ivan Robertson, author of over 40 books and 200 scholarly articles/conference papers on wellbeing and work psychology. Ivan is also an Emeri
Episode 3: Leadership, Entrepreneurship and the Changing World of Work
In this episode we take a deep dive into the themes of leadership and entrepreneurship in the evolving workplace. What makes a good leader? When do we want people to demonstrate entrepreneurial skills in business - and when don’t we? This episode features exclusive interviews with Emma Jones MBE, founder of Enterprise Nation and the government’s small business ’tsar’, and Derek Draper, CEO of CDP
Episode 2: An Interview with Professor Peter Saville
In this episode you can hear an exclusive interview with Professor Peter Saville that ABP board members Richard Chataway and Gab Gallassi conducted at last year's ABP conference. Saville is the founder and chair of 10x Psychology Limited and is widely credited with establishing the modern UK industry of occupational psychology, having been previously listed amongst the UK's leading entrepreneurs a
Episode 1: The Psychology of the Gig Economy
You will have almost certainly bought from Amazon. You may have travelled in an Uber taxi. You, or someone you know, may rely on home help from a carer. But have you ever considered what it's really like to work in one of those jobs, as part of the so-called gig economy? A job where you may be on a zero hours contract, with no guarantee of work one day to the next, and without the same safety and
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