
The Age Of Intelligence
The Age of Intelligence, recorded from INSEAD, explores the transformative impact of AI on business, geopolitics, culture, and humanity. Hosted by INSEAD AI academic Theos Evgeniou and Tim Gordon, the podcast features conversations with academics, entrepreneurs, business leaders, policymakers, and analysts. It examines how AI is rebalancing power among nations, corporations, and individuals, creating and redistributing trillions in value.
Episodes
Constantijn van Orange-Nassau: Europe’s AI Opportunity
Prince Constantijn van Oranje-Nassau is one of Europe’s clearest voices on tech sovereignty, startup scaling and industrial AI. His argument is blunt: Europe is not doomed in AI. But it is moving too slowly, thinking too nationally, and not investing enough capital required to compete. Europe should not focus on LLMs. The LLM race is crowded, expensive and dominated by the US and China. The
Ray Eitel-Porter: Governing the Machine
Ray Eitel-Porter led Accenture’s global responsible AI practice and co-authored Governing the Machine. This episode asks what happens when AI moves from giving answers to taking actions — and why AI Governance may yet become the cornerstone of management in the Age of Intelligence. Chatbots make mistakes; agents do things. Today’s AI can hallucinate, but Agentic AI spends m
Olivier Touba: What would your digital twin say?
Olivier Toubia is a Columbia Business School professor working at the frontier of AI, marketing, consumer behaviour, and digital twins. This was recorded late last year but his arguments are relevant and clear: LLMs drive towards the average which means its hard to mimic the diversity of human existence. Digital twins are promising — but not ready. Synthetic consumers for research pu
Its time to build! (European style): Cristina Caffarra
Cristina Caffarra is an eminent economist and veteran antitrust practitioner who has become a leading voice behind Eurostack — a grassroots, industry-led push to rebuild Europe’s digital infrastructure as a sovereignty and competitiveness play. She has a strong argument to make: Europe is a “digital colony” — and it’s self-inflicted. US hyperscalers are e
Sangeet Choudary: Who Learns Wins
Sangeet Choudary is the best-selling co-author of Platform Revolution and the author of the new book Reshuffle. He has advised CEOs at more than 40 Fortune 500 companies and is currently a Senior Fellow at the University of California, Berkeley. The SaaS crash isn’t cyclical — it’s structural. AI is eroding seat-based pricing, collapsing product boundaries, and destroying t
Helen Toner and Emelia Probasco: National Security in the Age of Intelligence
Helen Toner, whose decade of work on AI Safety came in to prominence when she was the OpenAI Board member who led the revolt against Sam Altman, and Emelia Probasco, who covers the national securty angles of AI both now work at the Centre for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET). They join the podcast to discuss the security issues around AI with the conversation ranging from their take o
Karen Hao: Rebel against the Empire
In this episode, we sit down with Karen Hao—award-winning journalist, MIT-trained engineer, TIME 100 AI honoree, and author of the best-seller Empire of AI—to unpack the power structures shaping today’s AI, business, and competition. She has a clear and punchy point of view. In our conversation we ask: - Is the Silicon Valley–Wall Street model the only way forward, or other
Saif Al Salman: what happens when a nation goes all-in on AI?
Saif Al Salman is Microsoft's National Technology Officer in the United Arab Emirates where "AI is a national bet for the country for the next 50 years." Saif has a front row seat to their sustained push: from appointing the first AI MInister to the recent promise to invest $1.4 trillion in US-aligned AI technology and infrastucture. The country has invested across multiple fronts ranging from tal
Demba Ba: The AI Neurosurgeon
"I want to give people the map ... what you do with it is up to you." Demba Ba has a 5-year ambition to cut open the AI Black Box and explain what makes LLMs work. Demba Ba, the Harvard Professor described as an "AI Neurosurgeon", shows why explainability lies at the heart of humans taking control of AI's alien intelligence. And if we get this right then we will also gain huge insight - "a n
Francois Candelon - Lessons from the “Permanent Revolution”
What can one learn from a Private Equity AI executive who quotes Leon Trotsky? Francois led the Boston Consulting Group’s Henderson Institute in its recent impactful work on Generative AI and the workforce. Ideas such as the “jagged frontier” and “AI as an exo-skeleton” have helped create mental models for everyone working in the space. He brings a unique perspective
Smarter Humans: The Pattie Maes Mission
Pattie Maes brings a unique perspective to the quest to build better machines: she pioneered the concept of the software agent in the 1990s. Ever since - as an entrepreneur and leading MIT academic - she has focused on the mission to help make humans smarter. To augment humanity, not robots. She takes us on her professional journey - from her first company (Agents Inc) to her latest research
Jeff McMillan: How Morgan Stanley deploys AI at scale
What does it take to deliver AI at scale in a traditional industry? Morgan Stanley, where Jeff McMillan is the Chief AI Officer, was a launch customer for GPT 4 and continues to innovate and invest in the space. His lessons on how to engage, how to start and how to scale AI - with tips on data, on leadership, on investment - will be of use to any corporate leader deploying AI at scale. Jeff
Tom Hurd: From Tracking Terrorists to Tracking AI Talent
If you can work out where the world's leading AI researchers are choosing to work then you will have a looking glass in to the future of both the technology and the balance of power. This was the thesis that led Tom Hurd—former UK Homeland Security Advisor - to found Zeki, which tracks the world's top AI talent. He tells us about his pivot from tracking terrorists and COVID outbreaks to trac
The Age Of Intelligence - Season 1
AI changes everything it touches. For better and for worse. And AI is increasingly touching everything. The Age of Intelligence, recorded from INSEAD, brings together the voices of this new era. AI is rebalancing the world. Power is shifting — among nations, corporations, and individuals — as trillions in value are created and redistributed. AI is increasingly central to economic and b
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