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The Independent / Next Chapter Studios 24 Episodes Oct 13, 2026

Two former Westminster insiders reveal how politics and power really work. Each week former Deputy Cabinet Secretary Helen MacNamara and Cleo Watson, former political advisor to Theresa May and Boris Johnson, dissect the week’s biggest news, revealing how decisions get made, why they go wrong, and what should happen next. In The Room is straight-talking, insider analysis with a dose of humour, every week.

Episodes

Does Andy Burnham want to reverse Brexit?
Does Andy Burnham want to reverse Brexit? Oct 13, 2026 37:23 In Andy Burnham’s Makerfield constituency, 65% of voters backed Leave. During the recent by-election campaign, Burnham said he did not want to reopen the old Brexit arguments. Yet in recent weeks, the Prime Minister has made a series of pointed interventions on Britain’s relationship with the EU.At Labour conference, he said Brexit had done “more harm than good”. In a BBC interview, he suggested i
Can Kemi Badenoch save the Tories with Thatcherism 2.0?
Can Kemi Badenoch save the Tories with Thatcherism 2.0? Oct 8, 2026 28:00 Conference season is in full swing - and this week, it unfolded across two very different political stages.In Birmingham, the Conservatives came to town. As Kemi Badenoch continues to win strong approval ratings - despite the Conservatives struggling to recover from their 2024 defeat - her conference speech doubled down on a classic Tory pitch: a smaller state, lower taxes, and a return to economi
Andy Burnham waited his whole life to deliver this speech – here's how it landed
Andy Burnham waited his whole life to deliver this speech – here's how it landed Sep 30, 2026 35:24 In The Room hits Liverpool for Labour Party Conference. Cleo heads into the hall, fringe events, protests and the media pen, talking to delegates, campaigners and lobbyists to get a feel for Andy Burnham’s Labour. Helen takes a different route, moving between Shelter, the Future Governance Forum and the receptions where senior figures are talking about what comes next.The mood is unusually upbeat,
Burnham’s Trump test – and the Lib Dems' identity crisis
Burnham’s Trump test – and the Lib Dems' identity crisis Sep 22, 2026 36:57 The Liberal Democrats are the third-largest party in the Commons, but where do they fit into Andy Burnham’s Britain? Following Ed Davey’s Brighton conference speech, we ask what the party actually stands for and uncover a surprising connection to Cleo’s political past.In New York, Burnham faces his first meeting with Donald Trump. With Ukraine, Iran, AI and even the Falklands potentially on the ag
Reform’s £72m war chest - and how real are AI doomsday warnings?
Reform’s £72m war chest - and how real are AI doomsday warnings? Sep 16, 2026 49:52 Reform’s money trail is still dominating the headlines, with two billionaire donors handing the party £72m in just 48 hours. Meanwhile, the Representation of the People Bill is making its way through the Lords. We look at why attempts to curb big money in British politics keep failing, and why Labour’s own position is more complicated than it seems.Across the Irish Sea, President Trump has reignit
Farage’s scandal-hit conference and Burnham’s next big test
Farage’s scandal-hit conference and Burnham’s next big test Sep 8, 2026 46:10 Westminster is back, and so is conference season, beginning with Reform’s scandal-hit gathering in Birmingham. Helen was there, and gives her verdict on whether Nigel Farage’s party still feels like a government-in-waiting after a bruising week.Meanwhile, Keir Starmer’s decision to stand down in Holborn and St Pancras has triggered the sixth by-election of the year, with Green leader Zack Polanski
Lessons from No 10: What happens when the PM meets Trump and Putin | Peter Hill
Lessons from No 10: What happens when the PM meets Trump and Putin | Peter Hill Aug 25, 2026 34:04 Being prime minister can be a lonely job. Everyone wants your attention, your approval and a say in the decisions you make. But when the fanfare dies down, it’s you holding the pen and making the biggest calls.Fortunately, every prime minister has one person at their side: their principal private secretary. Peter Hill was Theresa May’s PPS from 2017 to 2019, as well as her sherpa for the G7 and G2
Lessons from No 10: When government comms go badly wrong | Lee Cain
Lessons from No 10: When government comms go badly wrong | Lee Cain Aug 18, 2026 47:25 “It's a comms problem” is the diagnosis politicians, pundits and the public often reach for whenever a prime minister flounders. It was arguably Keir Starmer’s biggest undoing. From the beginning, he failed to articulate what kind of prime minister he would be. In the end, nobody really knew what he thought about anything. For today’s guest Lee Cain, Starmer was a “political vacuum” - but believes
Count Binface vs Farage: Flakes, Ferraris and the Clacton by-election
Count Binface vs Farage: Flakes, Ferraris and the Clacton by-election Aug 11, 2026 33:08 With the Clacton by-election just days away, In The Room welcomes perhaps Nigel Farage’s most unusual opponent: Count Binface.The intergalactic candidate joins Helen MacNamara and Cleo Watson to defend his manifesto, from capping 99 Flakes at 99p and building “at least one” affordable home to tackling Britain’s badly positioned hand dryers. He explains why housing and homelessness sit behind some
Lessons from No 10: When the world's most powerful CEOs enter Downing Street | Jimmy McLoughlin
Lessons from No 10: When the world's most powerful CEOs enter Downing Street | Jimmy McLoughlin Aug 4, 2026 40:50 When Apple chief executive Tim Cook visited No 10, he stopped to admire David Bailey’s portrait of Queen Elizabeth II. Jimmy McLoughlin, then Downing Street’s business director, gave him an impromptu tour and discovered along the way that Cook was also a fan of Netflix’s acclaimed royal drama The Crown.Working under Theresa May, McLoughlin’s role was to help ensure that some of the world’s most in
Who's winning the summer? Burnham, Badenoch and Farage assessed
Who's winning the summer? Burnham, Badenoch and Farage assessed Jul 31, 2026 43:24 As Andy Burnham's second week in power draws to a close, his rivals are scratching their heads and plotting their summer challenges – with mixed results. Green leader Zack Polanski is facing heat over yet another social media misdemeanour, it’s far from all quiet for Nigel Farage on the Clacton front, and the Liberal Democrats are nowhere to be seen – time for another Ed Davey stunt? Meanwhile, Ke
Too much Manchester? Andy Burnham's first big interview unpacked
Too much Manchester? Andy Burnham's first big interview unpacked Jul 28, 2026 36:37 Andy Burnham finally sat down to face some old school scrutiny this week. After weeks of winning praise for his social-first approach to communications – Britain's first TikTok Prime Minister? – he finally sat down for a proper grilling with the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg.Today, we unpack his performance. How did he handle the tough questions on Trump and Putin? Is he talking about Manchester a l

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