We call her Emma
This podcast tells the story of Emma, a high-achieving, middle-class young woman from west London who seemed destined for a comfortable life in banking. In 2001, she married Bashar al-Assad, the future dictator of Syria, becoming known as Asma al-Assad. The narrative explores the early hopes that she and her husband would modernize Syria, and how that hope turned to horror when the Arab Spring sparked a brutal crackdown on civilians. It also examines the central question of Asma's role: was she an active accomplice to war crimes, or a trapped and threatened hostage of the regime? Through the arc of her life, the podcast investigates what she knew, what choices she had, and how she became a controversial figure in a devastating conflict.
Episodes
Asma's Syria | We call her Emma Ep6
Eighteen months ago the Assad regime suddenly collapsed, and the first lady and her family fled to Moscow. A regime insider tells Chloe just how powerful Asma had become in the final years and what was happening inside the palace. Could Asma really have had aspirations to take over from her husband?We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.Reporter -
Asma’s orphanages | We call her Emma Ep5
Chloe learns of allegations that Asma - the ‘mother of the nation’ - had an active role in one of the regime’s cruellest strategies: separating the children of dissidents and rebel fighters from their parents to use them as bargaining chips. At an orphanage in Damascus, Chloe gets closer to the truth. We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.To
Asma’s deal | We call her Emma Ep4
Chloe travels to Damascus to meet people close to Bashar and Asma. One source tells her that Asma took a drastic decision in the early years of the war - she tried to leave Syria. Only it’s not for the reasons you might think.We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.To binge listen to more episodes today, ad-free, subscribe to The Observer and use th
Asma’s choice | We call her Emma Ep3
In 2011, the Arab Spring hits Syria and Asma has a decision to make: speak out in favour of the popular revolution or stay loyal to the regime. But what choice did she really have? We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.To binge listen to all episodes today, ad-free, subscribe to The Observer and use the code AUDIO50 to get 50% off your annual
Diana of Damascus | We call her Emma Ep2
When Asma arrives in Syria, there’s a palpable sense of hope. People in the country and around the world dare to believe that she is a force for good. Chloe hears from people who worked with her in the early years who - despite everything that’s happened - still believe her intentions were genuine but that she became trapped by the regime.We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise
The girl from Acton | We call her Emma Ep1
Emma is a high achieving, middle class woman from West London - she’s destined for a successful career and a comfortable British life. But in 2001 she makes a decision that will come to define her - she marries the son of a dictator and becomes Asma al-Assad, the first lady of Syria.We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.To binge listen to all epis
Introducing...We call her Emma
Emma is a high achieving, middle class girl from west London. She seems destined for a successful career in banking and a comfortable British life. Until she makes a decision that will come to define her. In 2001 Emma marries Bashar al-Assad - the now infamous dictator of Syria.In the early days, people inside and out of Syria dared to hope. Alongside his beautiful, progressive wife, Bashar p
