
Product Leaders
Product Leaders is a podcast from Orbis hosted by Ben Moulton. Ben talks with experienced product leaders about current topics and challenges in product management. The conversations are relaxed and candid, offering practical insights for both seasoned professionals and newcomers. The show also connects listeners to Orbis's product community for further discussion.
Episodes

The Product Leaders Podcast | Season 6 | Michelle Wright
In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Michelle Wright, a fractional product leader with a background spanning banking, startups and fintech, for her second appearance on the podcast. Ben and Michelle explore the changing economics of AI and what it means for product teams as the industry shifts from experimentation to real commercial pressure. Michelle shares insights from Little Lenny&

The Product Leaders Podcast | Season 6 | Barbara Carcangiu
In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Barbara Carcangiu, VP of Product at NEMO Money, a multi asset investing and trading app operating within a highly regulated environment.Ben and Barbara explore what it takes to build and scale product teams in fintech, where trust, compliance, and user experience all intersect. Barbara shares her journey from marketing into product leadership, what

The Product Leaders Podcast | Season 6 | Nicole Bianchi
In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Nicole Bianchi, SVP of Product at Chip, the UK based wealth app on a mission to tackle the advice gap. 🎙️Ben and Nicole explore what it’s really like to lead product in fast moving scale ups, from thriving in ambiguity to protecting impact as teams and organisations grow. Nicole shares her journey from early product roles to senior leadership at Chi

The Product Leaders Podcast | Season 6 | Andrew Hungate
In this episode, host Thai Silvera is joined by Andrew Hungate, Product Lead at Catena Labs. Together they explore what it actually means to build an AI-native financial institution, and how Catena Labs is designing financial infrastructure for a future where agents, not just humans, become economic actors.Andrew shares his journey from traditional fintech at Brex into the frontier of agent-first

The Product Leaders Podcast | Season 6 | Nick Sabharwal
In this episode, host Ben Moulton is joined by Nick Sabharwal, VP of Product at Seekr, alongside Thai Silvera, US Product recruiter at Orbis.Together they explore the growing importance of trustworthy and explainable AI, and how Seekr is helping organisations build AI systems where transparency, traceability and reliability are critical.Nick shares his journey from leading AI initiatives at Amazon

The Product Leaders Podcast – Season 4, featuring Mladen Subašić.
On this episode we interview Mladen Subašić, Chief Product Officer at Bound AI, part of OIP InsurTech.This episode explores the growing role of AI in modernising insurance operation. Ben and Mladen discuss his journey from behavioural science into product management, the creation of Bound AI and how technology is helping insurers capture unstructured data and build more autonomous processes.Mladen

Special Bonus Episode With Nicholas Goubert: Product & Digital Transformation
Special extra episode with Nicholas Goubert. Nicholas is a product leader with over 15 years’ experience in fintech, media and music, location services, mobility and big data. He is also the Co-CEO and Chief Product and Technology Officer at Oceans Technologies Group. Join us as Ben and Nicholas talk about cloud based solutions, digital transformation, being connected, solution verticals and much

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Nicolas Averseng
Nicolas Averseng, founder of YOOI, joins the podcast to explore how businesses can scale data and AI product management. He details why large organisations need a portfolio approach to data and AI products and how to shift from a project mindset to a true product mindset. Nicolas also talks about how measuring impact goes beyond financial ROI and shares his perspective on the future of AI governan

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Ilai Szpiezak
In this episode, Ilai Szpiezak, co-founder of Dolphin.ai shares how he built a data product from the ground up, turning customer feedback into actionable insights.He explains how his team uses AI to structure qualitative data, helping businesses make smarter product decisions.Ilai breaks down the differences between launching a marketplace vs. a SaaS product and the challenges that come with each.

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Chandni Kumar
Chandni Kumar, Lead Product Manager for Data & AI at Expedia, joins the podcast to share her journey through data product management across industries.She takes us inside Expedia’s B2B data products, breaking down how they leverage decades of travel data to optimise bookings, forecast demand, and align supply with shifting market trends. Chandni also reflects on the evolution of data product m

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Dan Woolcott
Dan Woolcott, Lead Product Manager for Data & Machine Learning at Tesco, takes us inside the world of cybersecurity and AI-driven defence. Coming from a background in data products at StepStone, he shares what it’s like to pivot into a new industry and offers advice for product managers also looking to transition. Dan reflects on the balance between AI automation and human judgement, the impor

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Ross Bailey
Ross Bailey joins the podcast to discuss data product management in financial services, drawing on 20+ years of experience leading multi-billion-dollar product and data portfolios.He explores how businesses define value in data products, the role of AI governance and compliance, and the challenges of balancing innovation with regulation.Ross shares insights on iterating on data products, engaging

Data/AI/ML Product Management with Grant Hodgkinson
In this episode, Grant Hodgkinson shares insights into AI and ML product management, drawing from his experience in B2B SaaS and leading cross-functional teams.He discusses product market fit in AI, the balance between customisation and scalability, and how decision engineers and business leaders collaborate to drive impact.The conversation explores measuring customer value in AI products, the imp

Levelling Up Your Product Career: Choices, Growth, and Hiring with Kathryn Buckley
In this episode, Kathryn Buckley shares her expert advice on advancing your product management career. We cover essential topics such as deciding between a management path and remaining an individual contributor, with insights on how to evaluate your passion and goals.
Kathryn provides effective strategies for skill development and growth within your role, as well as tips for enhancing stakehold

SPECIAL EDITION: Data Product Management Event Recap with Deena Shahrabani
Join me and Deena Shahrabani as we recap a recent event on Data Product Management (DPM), discussing its growing importance in tech.
Deena shares insights from her role at Trainline, where she builds data products that enhance customer engagement.
And I share insights from my day-to-day recruitment in this space, as we both explore the emerging DPM market, and the mindset needed to treat data as

Digital Health from a Product Perspective with Sophie Valentine
Join me and Sophie Valentine, a seasoned product leader who recently served as VP of Product at Healios, a digital health company. Sophie has driven innovation through roles at Healios and Huma, focusing on virtual care platforms and AI tools. She co-founded NeuroTechX London and has a strong background in neuroscience.
We discuss why Digital Health is exciting, the unique challenges of product m

Innovation Barriers in Financial Services with Ross Harty
Join me and Ross Harty as we discuss the challenges of driving innovation in financial services.
We cover key topics including overcoming cultural and organisational barriers, modernising tech stacks, and navigating complex regulatory landscapes.
He also shares strategies for balancing innovation with ROI and staying ahead of market changes.
Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.c

Harnessing Generative AI with Lindsay Scott
Join me and Lindsay Scott, the Chief Product Officer at Polecat, as we discuss her journey in building data and AI-driven products, the role of Generative AI at Polecat, and strategies for successful business transformation. Lindsay shares insights on navigating the AI landscape, the evolution of product management, and how to harness AI's potential while managing its disruptions.
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Driving Change in Product with Valentin Vincendon
Join me and Valentin Vincendon, the Chief Product Officer at Copper, as we explore the nuances of driving change in product management, essential best practices for product organisations, and the unique challenges faced by product leaders.
Valentin shares his insights on the importance of emotional intelligence, effective processes, and building strong relationships. We also discuss how principl

Bonus Episode – Listeners Questions with Ben Moulton
Welcome to a bonus episode with Ben as he goes through some questions from listeners. Ben gives his thoughts on product interviews, tackling counter offers, how to break into new areas of product management, and more!
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From Good to Great: AI, Digital, and Cultural Innovation with Rich Smith
Welcoming Rich Smith, the Chief Product Officer at Verisk Specialty Business Solutions, to the podcast. In this episode, we explore the pivotal role of culture in product management and the transformative journey of VSBS over the past eight years.
Rich shares his insights on creating a customer-centric culture, navigating significant organisational changes, and the digital evolution within the in

Embracing Failure to Unleash Innovation with Michelle Wright
I'm excited to welcome Michelle Wright, Chief Product Officer at Kurtosys, to the podcast. We delve into the essence of innovation and its impact on organisational culture.
Join us as Michelle shares her perspectives on fostering a culture of innovation, the importance of embracing failure, and strategies for building psychological safety within teams. Tune in to gain valuable insights into u

Fine Art Logistics Meets Product Management with David Griffiths
I'm thrilled to welcome David Griffiths to the podcast. We explore the intersection of art, technology, and product management, with David sharing insights from his role as Chief Product Officer at Convelio.
Tune in as we discuss the untapped potential of technology in the art market, the challenges of avoiding a "feature factory" mentality, and the exciting opportunities AI presen

The Rise of the Fractional CPO with Karina Carter
This week, I'm delighted to have Karina Carter on the show. We dive into her role as a Fractional CPO, discussing the importance of product-led growth and the challenges faced by founders without a product background.
Karina sheds light on the role of a Fractional CPO in early-stage startups and scaling companies, emphasising the benefits and integration tips. Tune in for valuable insights a

The Product Management Orthodoxy and Future with Matt Fenby-Taylor
Join me and Matt Fenby-Taylor, the ex-CPO of ClearScore, as we discuss recent challenges to the product management discipline, its cyclical nature, and strategies for growth and consolidation.
We touch upon the debate spurred on by AirBnb’s Brian Chesky, explore the 'new normal’, broader implications beyond PMs, and the craft of product management.
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Mastering People Management in Product with Alex Astafiev
We’re kicking off season two with my good friend, Alex Astafiev. We explore the multifaceted role of a product
manager and leader. From the complexities of people management, coaching, career development and emotional intelligence to his journey to landing his first job at Amadeus, we chat about it all!
Tune in for an insightful conversation on the essence of being a manager.
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Resilience & Regulation in Product with Piers Marais
In this episode, I'm joined by Piers Marais, Global Head of Product at Visa Cross-Border Solutions. Piers, a distinguished Product Leader in FinTech, shares his journey from Currencycloud to Visa amidst rapid growth and acquisition. Join us for insights into navigating highly regulated environments in product management, resilience in the product role, and the transformative impact of AI in Fi

The Intersection of Product and Data with Nick Zervoudis
Join me in today's episode with Nick Zervoudis, Data Product Manager at CKDelta, the data monetisation and innovation startup of CK Hutchinson conglomerate. Nick, a prominent figure in the data product community, shares his journey from a data background to Data Product Management. Tune in as we discuss the expanding recognition of data product teams and the intersection of product principles

Crafting a Great Product Strategy with Lorenzo Espinosa
Join me in today's episode with Lorenzo Espinosa, Head of Product at Ada Health, a Berlin-based health tech scale-up. Lorenzo's rapid rise from big tech to B2B health tech is a testament to his impressive Product Leadership journey. We'll explore his career shifts, the synergy between commercial and product teams, and uncover the keys to building a solid product strategy. Don't mis

Discovering the Data Product world with Caroline Zimmerman
Join me in this episode with Caroline Zimmerman, Director of Data Products and Strategy at Profusion, a consultancy mastering data solutions. From a data-centric background, Caroline's evolution into a product manager and leader culminates in her current role as a full-fledged data product leader. Dive into our conversation exploring data product realms and Caroline's intriguing journey in

Synergy in Design & Product Management with Jane Austin
Dive into the next episode with host Ben Moulton as he chats with Jane Austin, former Chief Product Officer at Juniver and current Founder/CPO of Laurel. Jane's stellar career, spanning renowned global tech companies in product and design, takes centre stage. Uncover the bond between design and product, Jane's transition from design to product, and valuable advice for designers eyeing a si

Exploring 'Procesship' with Katherine Maree Pace
Join host Ben Moulton in a captivating episode with Katherine Maree Pace, SARSEN's Chief Product Officer. Explore Katherine's illustrious career, spanning diverse companies, industries, and geographies. Hear about Katherine's experiences, focusing on process optimisation and effective leadership. This episode looks into what Product Leaders must master for success, offering valuable in
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