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The State of It

The State of It

The Times 47 episodes Nov 10, 2026

Real reporting from the coalface of British politics. Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Patrick Maguire, Gabriel Pogrund and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight. No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, from those who live it daily.

Episodes

Is Labour losing the argument on welfare?
Is Labour losing the argument on welfare? Nov 10, 2026 28:52 Does Labour have the will to implement serious welfare reform and bring down the benefits bill? Alan Milburn's report on Neets, young people not in education, employment or training, comes out next week. Andy Burnham's plan is to spend money first, to bring the welfare bill down in the long run. What will voters make of that?Kemi Badenoch’s Conservative Party is promising £36bn in welfare
Britain’s fate in Trump’s hands
Britain’s fate in Trump’s hands Nov 6, 2026 27:05 After Donald Trump took an almighty shellacking in the US midterms, Andy Burnham is left waiting to see what the American president does next. Will Trump escalate the war in Iran or find a way out? The difference could mean the difference between soaring inflation and higher energy bills, or falling oil prices, stronger growth and relief for households. With Britain largely powerless to influence
How far will Burnham go for Europe?
How far will Burnham go for Europe? Nov 3, 2026 28:51 Brexit is back, but did it ever really go away? Andy Burnham is preparing to make some big concessions to the EU to get his latest deal over the line. On the table? Youth mobility, equal university fees for EU students and Britain aligning with EU tariffs on Chinese electric cars — all while the bloc pushes ahead with its ‘Made in Europe’ protectionist plan, which threatens to shut British industr
" Run away, turn away, run away, turn away" - Healey's Bronski Beat budget
" Run away, turn away, run away, turn away" - Healey's Bronski Beat budget Oct 28, 2026 33:23 John Healey’s first Budget is being dubbed the “Bronski Beat Budget”: a Chancellor running away from the big decisions on welfare and defence. With growth downgraded, energy bills set to soar and taxes at record highs, how much room for manoeuvre does he really have? And is this Burnham’s economy now, with the Chancellor merely keeping the engine running until the Prime Minister’s 10-year plan arr
Brexit, oil and immigration: Labour's three rows
Brexit, oil and immigration: Labour's three rows Oct 27, 2026 32:43 Arguing in the Labour party is ramping up. Andy Burnham has further fuelled the Brexit wars, floating a return to free movement and even EU membership, even though he claimed there was “nothing socialist” about free movement a decade ago. Is this political manoeuvring, or does Burnham himself know where he wants to end up?Meanwhile, Labour’s cabinet is split over North Sea drilling and immigration
You can't vibe-code your way to growth
You can't vibe-code your way to growth Oct 23, 2026 33:04 Former Bank of England chief economist Andy Haldane, a close ally of Andy Burnham, has sounded the alarm over the upcoming budget, warning the Prime Minister can’t “vibe-code his way to growth”.Patrick joins John Healey on the road, getting a glimpse of the Chancellor’s pro-business pitch — and the bottle of HP Sauce he keeps in his briefcase.Ben takes us inside the budget, unpacking four key area
Andy Burnham's welfare plan: spend first, cut later
Andy Burnham's welfare plan: spend first, cut later Oct 20, 2026 28:13 Andy Burnham's welfare reforms are likely to start with more, not less, spending. In his review into Neets, young people not in education, employment or training, Alan Milburn will propose restricting access to universal credit for 16 to 24-year-olds, and spending money instead on employment support. The prime minister will tell MPs the government needs to spend first, cut later to bring about
AI rows and pre-budget jitters – The State of It Live
AI rows and pre-budget jitters – The State of It Live Oct 19, 2026 34:00 In this live recording of The State of It, Patrick and Steve assess the state of play ahead of budget day.John Healey is preparing a steady-as-she-goes budget, but with the big decisions on welfare, defence and tax rises pushed into next year, is Labour ducking the difficult choices?Meanwhile, AI evangelists want Britain to seize the opportunities, while Ed Miliband is pushing back on environmenta
Burnham brings back Brexit wars: what’s the strategy?
Burnham brings back Brexit wars: what’s the strategy? Oct 13, 2026 31:37 Andy Burnham has pulled the lever marked ‘Brexit’, threatening to reignite the wars of yesteryear. The soft left are delighted, but there’s unease in his cabinet. Is this a route back to a referendum, or just a meagre SPS (Sanitary and Phytosanitary) deal? Or is Burnham already firing the opening shots of his election campaign — at the expense of the leave-voting areas he promised to win over? Has
Zack Polanski on the brink
Zack Polanski on the brink Oct 9, 2026 23:28 Zack Polanski's defeat in the Holborn & St Pancras by-election puts him in a tough position. The Green leader lost the by-election by 3,300 votes to Sagal Abdi-Wali, the Labour candidate. He's also facing criticism after the Green Party voted to declare that Zionism is racism. Polanski did not vote and has been accused of failing to show leadership. How tenable is his position now?Plus
Kemi Badenoch bets the house on the economy
Kemi Badenoch bets the house on the economy Oct 7, 2026 31:56 Kemi Badenoch's attack on Reform UK was all about character and her attack on Labour was all about economics. In her speech at the Conservative Party conference in Birmingham, she said she would to scrap inheritance tax on family homes and that under a Conservative government, couples would be able to leave an extra £1m inheritance tax free to their children.Badenoch was withering about Nigel
Andy Burnham's radical British reset
Andy Burnham's radical British reset Sep 29, 2026 17:42 The Labour Party is jubilant. Andy Burnham has fired the starting gun for the next general election with one of the most consequential conference speeches in recent memory. He used it to set out a series of major proposals, including an end to the triple lock, the abolition of first-past-the-post and closer ties with Europe.At the heart of his national project is a care service free at the point o

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