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The State of It

The State of It

The Times 47 Episodes Oct 20, 2026

Real reporting from the coalface of British politics. Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Patrick Maguire, Gabriel Pogrund and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight. No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, from those who live it daily.

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Andy Burnham's welfare plan: spend first, cut later
Andy Burnham's welfare plan: spend first, cut later Oct 20, 2026 28:13 Andy Burnham's welfare reforms are likely to start with more, not less, spending. In his review into Neets, young people not in education, employment or training, Alan Milburn will propose restricting access to universal credit for 16 to 24-year-olds, and spending money instead on employment support. The prime minister will tell MPs the government needs to spend first, cut later to bring about
AI rows and pre-budget jitters – The State of It Live
AI rows and pre-budget jitters – The State of It Live Oct 19, 2026 34:00 In this live recording of The State of It, Patrick and Steve assess the state of play ahead of budget day.John Healey is preparing a steady-as-she-goes budget, but with the big decisions on welfare, defence and tax rises pushed into next year, is Labour ducking the difficult choices?Meanwhile, AI evangelists want Britain to seize the opportunities, while Ed Miliband is pushing back on environmenta
Burnham brings back Brexit wars: what’s the strategy?
Burnham brings back Brexit wars: what’s the strategy? Oct 13, 2026 31:37 Andy Burnham has pulled the lever marked ‘Brexit’, threatening to reignite the wars of yesteryear. The soft left are delighted, but there’s unease in his cabinet. Is this a route back to a referendum, or just a meagre SPS (Sanitary and Phytosanitary) deal? Or is Burnham already firing the opening shots of his election campaign — at the expense of the leave-voting areas he promised to win over? Has
Zack Polanski on the brink
Zack Polanski on the brink Oct 9, 2026 23:28 Zack Polanski's defeat in the Holborn & St Pancras by-election puts him in a tough position. The Green leader lost the by-election by 3,300 votes to Sagal Abdi-Wali, the Labour candidate. He's also facing criticism after the Green Party voted to declare that Zionism is racism. Polanski did not vote and has been accused of failing to show leadership. How tenable is his position now?Plus
Kemi Badenoch bets the house on the economy
Kemi Badenoch bets the house on the economy Oct 7, 2026 31:56 Kemi Badenoch's attack on Reform UK was all about character and her attack on Labour was all about economics. In her speech at the Conservative Party conference in Birmingham, she said she would to scrap inheritance tax on family homes and that under a Conservative government, couples would be able to leave an extra £1m inheritance tax free to their children.Badenoch was withering about Nigel
Andy Burnham's radical British reset
Andy Burnham's radical British reset Sep 29, 2026 17:42 The Labour Party is jubilant. Andy Burnham has fired the starting gun for the next general election with one of the most consequential conference speeches in recent memory. He used it to set out a series of major proposals, including an end to the triple lock, the abolition of first-past-the-post and closer ties with Europe.At the heart of his national project is a care service free at the point o
Labour parties like it's 1997
Labour parties like it's 1997 Sep 28, 2026 32:24 At the Labour Party conference in Liverpool, the mood is jubilant. They have a popular leader who can speak fluently in public. Andy Burnham's speech on Tuesday will be a big moment and it's expected to be full of announcements. Whitehall and cabinet ministers are trying to keep up. The problem, as always, is making the sums add up. The prime minister has made social care the main topic of
EXCLUSIVE - John Healey: budget will prove I'm pro-business
EXCLUSIVE - John Healey: budget will prove I'm pro-business Sep 26, 2026 34:39 John Healey, the chancellor, tells us his budget will offer people breathing space on both the cost of living and the cost of business. He said he was concerned about the rising price of fuel and that he wanted wealthy people to stay in Britain. In July, Andy Burnham, the prime minister, said that he would use "any flexibility" in the government's fiscal rules, but Healey was clear t
A snap election - surely not?
A snap election - surely not? Sep 25, 2026 27:54 The Labour Party conference starts in Liverpool this weekend. It's a chance for Andy Burnham to lay out his vision for the country. Expect worldview, class, solidarity and hope. How much criticism is likely to come from allies of Keir Starmer? Darren Jones, Starmer's former right-hand-man, has been giving interviews. Will others do the same?Could Burnham call a snap election?An MRP mega po
Raise taxes, fix welfare later: Labour's tough sell
Raise taxes, fix welfare later: Labour's tough sell Sep 22, 2026 32:49 What a difference a year makesThe Labour Party conference awaits. Has Andy Burnham's folksy charm and optimism taken the party as far as it can, or can he consolidate power and popularity?Six-party politics A YouGov poll for The Times and Sky News puts Reform UK and the Conservative Party on level pegging for the first time in 18 months. Thursday's mega poll, the first MRP from YouGov in a
Trump and Burnham meet: what could go wrong?
Trump and Burnham meet: what could go wrong? Sep 18, 2026 29:54 The Burnham Trump meetingAndy Burnham and Donald Trump will meet for the first time in New York next week. It's the biggest foreign policy moment in Burnham's premiership so far and there are many different ways in which it could go wrong. Burnham wants to be more confrontational with Trump than Starmer was...without damaging relations with the US.Autumn budget: the walls are closing inIt's now ac
Mr Hope and Mr Sensible step into the danger zone
Mr Hope and Mr Sensible step into the danger zone Sep 15, 2026 35:41 Will Labour raise taxes?The cost of government borrowing is going up and up. That means the chancellor, John Healey, may well need to cut spending or raise taxes next month - and tax rises are much more likely.Labour MPs are overwhelmingly happy for the first time in living memory, but is that because they haven't woken up to the grim economic reality? The Labour Party conference slogan this year

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